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Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by LazyPatriot
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It is tiresome to read utterly conventional narcisso-lefty rants about whatever Bush says or does. Our boy Kaplan is perhaps the most predictable, least imaginative kneejerk paid opinionator out there (leaving aside Frank Rich and others hidden behind The Wall.)


I note that today Kaplan and the Washington Post both want to decry the assasination of Sheikh Abdul Sittar Bezea al-Rishawi. Now that he's dead, he is an important man, the lost key to Bush's success in Iraq. While alive however, the guy was invisible unless you read independent reporters or soldier blogs while he worked with us to move key Sunni leaders away from the other side. But his new-found post-mortem importance is the posture of the moment and thus requires a kneejerk mention by deep-thinkers like Kaplan.

Those of us who read beyond the New York Times and Daily Kos knew that Anbar started changing last spring. Why Bush, Casey, Sanchez et al. took so long to adapt to the success crafted by more junior men is disappointing but my disappointment does not make me a policy expert as it magically does for Mr. Kaplan.

He now opines that removing troops is a bad thing, forced upon Bush and unrelated to his general's recommendations or the situation in Iraq. However, had Harry Reid put this exact outcome in a bill and tried to mandate it it would have been seen as progress, a step in the right direction. Nobody surfs the lefty zeitgeist like our man Kaplan.

The notion that Fred Kaplan is more maturely grounded in reality than George Bush and his senior military advisors is patently silly. But how imaginative and of him to use the Bush-is-on-another-planet metaphor because that's like totally original. No wonder Slate pays him the big bucks.

Kaplan may be a sophomoric disaster as an opinion journalist but his work may be studied by future generations to examine the mysterious verbal-but-useless class of Americans who believed (a) that validating their feelings should be the essence of foreign and military policy and (b) those who disagree with that approach are like on another planet.

Re: Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by San

The Sheik is important, but important for the Pro Bush movement.

<link>

"

"We will take our revenge," the mourners chanted along the 10 kilometer (6 mile) route to Risha's family cemetery, many of them crying. "We will continue the march of Abu Risha."

Abu Risha was buried one year after the goateed, charismatic, chain-smoking young sheik organized 25 Sunni Arab clans under the umbrella of the Anbar Awakening Council, an alliance against al-Qaida in Iraq, to drive terrorists from sanctuaries where they had flourished after the U.S.-led invasion in 2003."

It sure looks like that he was Martyred in the name of Pro United States actions, and is bringing more support to the US and Iraqi Military.

Re: Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by jwschmidt
LazyPatriot:



Those of us who read beyond the New York Times and Daily Kos knew that Anbar started changing last spring. Why Bush, Casey, Sanchez et al. took so long to adapt to the success crafted by more junior men is disappointing but my disappointment does not make me a policy expert as it magically does for Mr. Kaplan.

He now opines that removing troops is a bad thing, forced upon Bush and unrelated to his general's recommendations or the situation in Iraq. However, had Harry Reid put this exact outcome in a bill and tried to mandate it it would have been seen as progress, a step in the right direction. Nobody surfs the lefty zeitgeist like our man Kaplan.

It should be obvious that no one is saying that bringing troops home is a bad thing, and that the real issue is why they are coming home. Bush's speech claimed that they were being brought home because they were no longer needed, that security had gotten good enough to merit their withdrawal. You know thats not the reason.

Removing them is not a bad thing, but it is indicative of a bad thing: the reality that our military overreach is coming back to haunt us in the form of the number of deployable troops.

Everyone understands that Anbar represents a security success, at least for now. What we are struggling to grasp is how Sunnis turning against Al-Qaida represents a step towards national reconciliation. Does this mean they will get along better with the Shiites? The speech seems to present that as the logical conclusion, but thats a tough sell.

Its excellent news that AQ is on the out in Iraq. But the question is this: Does Sunni rejection of AQ indicate a willingness to cooperate with the Kurds and Shiites more than it does a willingness to stand up for the needs of their own sect?

Lazy thinking, certainly
by DarkHorizon
LazyPatriot:

It is tiresome to read utterly conventional narcisso-lefty rants about whatever Bush says or does. Our boy Kaplan is perhaps the most predictable, least imaginative kneejerk paid opinionator out there (leaving aside Frank Rich and others hidden behind The Wall.)

There's an easy solution to that, don't read them. But of course, that wasn't a real comment, only an affectation on your part.


I note that today Kaplan and the Washington Post both want to decry the assasination of Sheikh Abdul Sittar Bezea al-Rishawi. Now that he's dead, he is an important man, the lost key to Bush's success in Iraq. While alive however, the guy was invisible unless you read independent reporters or soldier blogs while he worked with us to move key Sunni leaders away from the other side. But his new-found post-mortem importance is the posture of the moment and thus requires a kneejerk mention by deep-thinkers like Kaplan.

Bushistas have been making him "an important man," Bush himself met with him in Iraq. Now he's dead, and that's emblematic of the uncontrolled violence in that country. The kneejerk here appears to be your own.

Those of us who read beyond the New York Times and Daily Kos knew that Anbar started changing last spring. Why Bush, Casey, Sanchez et al. took so long to adapt to the success crafted by more junior men is disappointing but my disappointment does not make me a policy expert as it magically does for Mr. Kaplan.

Of course, the surge forced insurgents out of the more dangerous areas and into other areas not previously considered that dangerous, including the south.

Neither you nor Kaplan are experts, true, but of the two, he seems a lot more knowledgable.

He now opines that removing troops is a bad thing, forced upon Bush and unrelated to his general's recommendations or the situation in Iraq. However, had Harry Reid put this exact outcome in a bill and tried to mandate it it would have been seen as progress, a step in the right direction. Nobody surfs the lefty zeitgeist like our man Kaplan.

Uh, no, he opines that allowing surge troops (who would be coming home anyway) to come home and them pretending that that's a 'troop reduction' is dishonest, and I'd agree.

I do agree that if any Dem put any kind of withdrawal in a bill, it wouldn't pass, and would likely be the cause of more accusations of 'defeatism' against the Dems. But that hypocrisy is on YOUR side of the account sheet.

The notion that Fred Kaplan is more maturely grounded in reality than George Bush and his senior military advisors is patently silly. But how imaginative and of him to use the Bush-is-on-another-planet metaphor because that's like totally original. No wonder Slate pays him the big bucks.

Let's see, has Kaplan pretended that his fellow editors have WMD? Has he invaded their homes, shot members of their families, tortured anyone? Did he then go on to pretend that the whole thing was necessary, and that he was 'winning' something by doing so? I think it's pretty obvious that that's a poor comparison- for Bush.

Kaplan may be a sophomoric disaster as an opinion journalist but his work may be studied by future generations to examine the mysterious verbal-but-useless class of Americans who believed (a) that validating their feelings should be the essence of foreign and military policy and (b) those who disagree with that approach are like on another planet.

Making silly, abusive posts against Kaplan no doubt seems clever and self-aggrandizing to you, but if you can't really refute much of what Kaplan says, who's the one who ends up with egg on his face?

That'd be you.

Agreed, well-said!
by Horus
Pompous Bush-based bulls--t doesn't do much for me, either.
Re: Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by wayhey1

LazyPatriot:
Those of us who read beyond the New York Times and Daily Kos knew that Anbar started changing last spring. Why Bush, Casey, Sanchez et al. took so long to adapt to the success crafted by more junior men is disappointing but my disappointment does not make me a policy expert as it magically does for Mr. Kaplan.

I thought his PhD from MIT as well as his years as a policy advisor, author, and journalist made him an expert...?

Re: Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by Beaujoe
I assume if you were less lazy you'd be in Iraq?
Re: Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by San

"I thought his PhD from MIT as well as his years as a policy advisor, author, and journalist made him an expert...?"

Political Science from MIT.

He might as well use that degree for toliet paper.

Its worthless.

Everyone knows that MIT can only produced university level academic classes for the Math and Science field.

When you have idiots like Noam Chomsky who can't get a job in a respected school of Political Science as one of your star Professors, you know your program sucks.

Re: Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by Anse

Noam Chomsky is a linguist, not a political science professor. He's also a preeminent scholar in that field.

But of course San will attempt to dispute this.

Re: Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by San

So you are claiming that he hasn't written many books about the need to adopt socialism?

Wait....

Here we go:

"

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  • (1969). American Power and the New Mandarins
  • (1970). "Notes on Anarchism", New York Review of Books
  • (1970). At war with Asia
  • (1970). Two Essays on Cambodia
  • (1971). Chomsky: selected readings
  • (1971). Problems of Knowledge and Freedom
  • (1973). For Reasons of State
  • (1973). Censored full text Counter-Revolutionary Violence: Bloodbaths in Fact and Propaganda (with Edward S. Herman)
  • (1974). Peace in the Middle East? Reflections on Justice and Nationhood
  • (1976). Intellectuals and the State
  • (1978). Human Rights and American Foreign Policy
  • (1979). After the Cataclysm: Postwar Indochina and the Reconstruction of Imperial Ideology (with Edward Herman)
  • (1979). Language and Responsibility
  • (1979). The Washington Connection and Third World Fascism (with Edward Herman)
  • (1981). Radical Priorities
  • (1982). Superpowers in collision: the cold war now
  • (1982). Towards a New Cold War: Essays on the Current Crisis and How We Got There
  • (1983). The Fateful Triangle: The United States, Israel, and the Palestinians
  • (1985). Turning the Tide : U.S. intervention in Central America and the Struggle for Peace
  • (1986). Pirates and Emperors: International Terrorism in the Real World
  • (1986). The Race to Destruction: Its Rational Basis
  • (1987). The Chomsky Reader
  • (1987). On Power and Ideology
  • (1987). Turning the Tide: the U.S. and Latin America
  • (1988). The Culture of Terrorism
  • (1988). Language and Politics
  • (1988). Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media (with Edward Herman)
  • (1989). Necessary Illusions
  • (1991). Terrorizing the Neighborhood
  • (1992). What Uncle Sam Really Wants
  • (1992). Chronicles of Dissent
  • (1992). Deterring Democracy
  • (1993). Letters from Lexington: Reflections on Propaganda
  • (1993). The Prosperous Few and the Restless Many
  • (1993). Rethinking Camelot: JFK, the Vietnam War, and U.S. Political Culture
  • (1993). World Order and Its Rules: Variations on Some Themes
  • (1993). Year 501: The Conquest Continues
  • (1994). Keeping the rabble in Line
  • (1994). Secrets, Lies, and Democracy
  • (1994). World Orders, Old and New
  • (1996). Powers and Prospects: Reflections on Human Nature and the Social Order
  • (1996). Class Warfare
  • (1997). One Chapter, The Cold War and the University
  • (1997). Media Control: The Spectacular Achievements of Propaganda
  • (1998). The Common Good
  • (1999). The Umbrella of US Power
  • (1999). Latin America: From Colonization to Globalization
  • (1999). Acts of Aggression: Policing "Rogue" States (with Edward W. Said)
  • (1999). The New Military Humanism: Lessons from Kosovo
  • (1999). Profit over People: Neoliberalism and Global Order
  • (1999). The Fateful Triangle (updated edition)
  • (2000). Chomsky on Mis-Education (edited by Donaldo Macedo)
  • (2000). A New Generation Draws the Line: Kosovo, East Timor and the Standards of the West
  • (2000). Rogue States: The Rule of Force in World Affairs
  • (2001). Propaganda and the Public Mind
  • (2001). 9-11
  • (2002). Understanding Power: The Indispensable Chomsky
  • (2002). Chomsky on Democracy and Education (edited by C.P. Otero)
  • (2002). Media Control (Second Edition)
  • (2002). Pirates and Emperors, Old and New: International Terrorism in the Real World
  • (2003). Power and Terror: Post-9/11 Talks and Interviews
  • (2003). Middle East Illusions: Including Peace in the Middle East? Reflections on Justice and Nationhood
  • (2003). Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance
  • (2003). Znet article, Deep Concerns <link>
  • (2004). Getting Haiti Right This Time: The U.S. and the Coup (with Paul Farmer and Amy Goodman)
  • (2005). Chomsky on Anarchism (edited by Barry Pateman)
  • (2005) Government in the future. Seven Stories Press. ISBN 1583226850. Text of the lecture given at the Poetry Center, New York, February 16, 1970.
  • (2005). Imperial Ambitions: Conversations on the Post-9/11 World
  • (2005). The Impetious Imperialist
  • (2006). Failed States: The Abuse of Power and the Assault on Democracy
  • (2006). Perilous Power. The Middle East and U.S. Foreign Policy. Dialogues on Terror, Democracy, War, and Justice (with Gilbert Achcar)
  • (2007). Interventions
  • (2007). What We Say Goes: Conversations on U.S. Power in a Changing World"

Re: Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by HunterWagner74
...It is tiresome to read utterly conventional narcisso-lefty rants about whatever Bush says or does...

Really? Well, next time, don't put a lying, criminal murderer in the White House.

Narcissus and Echo
by Livy
Remember how every tme Narcissus said something, Echo repeated his last words. Bush echoes the same tired, logically inconsistent ideas but in different words. Victory has become success. Stand down has become give us more time. 63% of Americans are narcissistic because they want us to either shit or else get off the pot.
Re: Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by HunterWagner74
...Those of us who read beyond the New York Times and Daily Kos knew that Anbar started changing last spring...

What don't you get? WE DON'T CARE. Bush is a lying, criminal piece of shit who fucked up BIG TIME in March, 2003. I don't care if they have white picket fences and Fourth of July parties in Iraq now--Bush should be arrested and hanged as a traitor.
Re: Is Angry Narcissism Now a Literary Genre?
by San

"Really? Well, next time, don't put a lying, criminal murderer in the White House."

Lets see.

Criminal? Nope. Everything he did was authorized under the law.

Lying? Nope. But see, anyone who does not agree with you is a liar.

But thanks for playing the Libel game. Its nice when you have to blatantly lie about people instead of putting forth a real argument.

Re: Narcissus and Echo
by San

" Remember how every tme Narcissus said something, Echo repeated his last words."

Actually, Echo was able to repeat more than his last words.

She could only speak words that were already stated, but she could change them around.

Furthermore, she did not have such a curse until after she lied about who Zeus was sleeping with.

So, nice try.

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