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Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by jrd_2

The Bible pretty clearly states that the name of the Judeo-Christian deity is "Yahweh" or "Jehovah." You could probably stretch it to include "Jesus." "God" is a euphemism originally used specifically for the purpose of avoiding Second Commandment violations.

Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by matheo
That struck me as odd, too. It's a particularly significant point for Jehovah's Witnesses, since they place special emphasis on Jehovah/Yahweh/YHWH being the 'correct' name of God. Unless she said "I swear to Jehovah", it's hard to see how that falls under the second commandment...
Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by ddave

Ignorant and foolish nitpicking.

So, in your books "God" does not refer to the Supreme Being that created the universe, and rules it with the word of His power? If so, it is obvious then that you are not reading the same Bible that everyone else is reading, or you are simply being disingenious.

Whether it is God (Elohim in OT; Theos in NT), Lord (Yehovaw in OT; Kurios in NT), it is the same Person we are referring to. Most people who have not lived nearly as long as God have, on average, three names: first, middle and last names. It shouldn't be a surprise that God has more than one name.

Where in the Bible did God say His name is not God? After all He is addressed as, or calls Himself God at least 2606 times in the OT and 1343 times in the NT.

I suggest you make your research before spitting out falsehoods.

Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by dantesfurlough
That's funny, Dave, accusing someone of spitting out falsehoods when discussing the bible. An entire book of falsehoods.
Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by bsharporflat

First, middle and last names of God? Cool!

Jehovah Lord God is the dad of Jesus H. Christ?

Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by financelaw
Dave's correct. Also, remember folks that you're thinking from an English translated version of the Bible. A true reading of the scripture of anchient languages will give you a much more in depth meaning of what was truly stated. God, Lord, Jesus, Jehovah; it's considered the same and the argument that it is not, is really irrelevant anyway. All of them are interchangeable.
Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by janeslogin
Perhaps she was swearing to a lower case "god" and not the upper case "God".
Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by matheo
Neither ignorant nor foolish. Nitpicky, perhaps, but that nitpicking is on the part of the Jehovah's Witnesses. They, in fact, DO read a "different" bible than everyone else. Or rather, a different translation. JW's read their own translation, called the New World Translation, and it refers throughout to 'Jehovah' and 'Jehovah God', which are rendered 'Lord' and 'Lord God' in more common translations (KJV and NIV). So a Jehovah's Witness is unlikely to consider 'I swear to God' a violation of the second commandment, since he/she places such emphasis about the "correct" name of god.
Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by matheo
For corroboration, read the comment by chicagopolitics posted above this thread.
Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by Texwiz

While I agree with the OP that "god" is a title, not a proper name, nitpicking whether she was violating the second commandment is beside the point.

Whether she explicitly "took the Lord's name in vain" or not, she was reviling, cursing, threatening, giving in to fits of anger, etc, all clear bible principles that are outlined as not befitting a Christian. That she failed to live up to the faith she proclaimed is neither a matter for a legalistic interpretation of bible law nor a reflection on Jehovah's Witnesses.

Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by Texwiz

matheo:
Nitpicky, perhaps, but that nitpicking is on the part of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

They, in fact, DO read a "different" bible than everyone else.

Two points. 1) I was not aware that Jehovah's Witnesses had made any statement on the matter. 2) Witnesses do primarily use the New World Translation, which uniformly renders the tetragrammaton (the Hebrew letters YHWH) as Jehovah, and renders the Hebrew and Greek words for God and Lord, as God and Lord, but they are not prohibited or discouraged from using other translations.

Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by matheo
I can't say for sure (I'm not a JW), but I'd be very surprised to find out that the JW's aren't discouraged from using other translations, since so many of their doctrinal peculiarities (blood transfusions, no crosses, etc.) stem from their particular rendering of the bible. But either way, it's irrelevant to this particular debate. A community that places singular emphasis on the name of god (that's why they're called JEHOVAH's Witnesses!) is not going to view "I swear to god" as use or misuse of the name of god. They may consider it rude or crass, but they won't consider it taking the name of god in vain, because they are quite emphatic about "God" not being the name of god.

Again, we've already got a post by a former member who's said more or less the same thing, so I'm not sure what there's left to argue over.
Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by Texwiz

I can tell you, having been raised among Witnesses and having a great deal of respect for them, that among Jehovah's Witnesses, they don't really obsess in a nitpicky way over whether 'swear to god" is taking the lord's name in vain, but rather, eschew "swearing" anything, preferring Jesus' admonition not to be swearing, rather, just "let your yes mean yes and your no, no" but they don't generally get all upset if someone casually says "I swear." You're right that many among them would, though, consider it rude, or crass. Much as they would view Serena's outburst.

I'm sure JWs have the equivalent of the "church lady" types among their membership who are quite nitpicky, but that's not the general way of things among them.

Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by robwriter
So is "His" another name or just a nickname like "Bob"?
Re: Since when is the name of the Lord "God"?
by robwriter
So what's an "anchient" language? Would it be like Lhatin or Ghreek?
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