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Parsing "Their Old Knives"
by Bottomfish
As a schoolchild I used to perform an exercise called "diagramming sentences." Given a sentence, my task was to draw a diagram showing the relation of subject and predicate, and within them, independent and dependent clauses. I still remember the divided horizontal line setting out the major parts, and clauseson diagonals running downward left to right. Nowadays a similar thing is done when a computer compiler or interpreter program reads a statement of a programming language like C and begins the task of converting it into "machine language" that the computer can actually perform. Now the task is commonly known as "parsing."

"Their Old Knives" is (very nearly) a single complex sentence. The narrator is addressing some old kitchen knives he apparently inherited from his parents' household. When he says you, he means the knives. In line 15 he commands them:

Be ready for my needs, to do the work you know,

The fourteen lines before this spell out the work the knives knew: cutting liver, tomatoes, watermelon, and day-old bread. The four dependent clauses beginning for tell us what the knives cut. But the poet doen't stop with the cutting tasks; he tells us in an accumulation of what could be
called "sub-dependent clauses" where the tomatoes grew, what the environment of the garden was like, what the sultry days of August were like, until he has come close to evoking part of a way of life. The line "where women frowned and men sold glory," suggests that this was a violent neighborhood.

After Be ready, the poet sets forth the tasks he wants the knives to do for him now: assist in midnight refrigerator raids and other meals. In another dependent clause he tells us that the knives are

the precious few things, except for their lives,
that I saved from the house of the dead.

It's clear that the poet cherishes the life of his childhood, including his parents. This is the motivation for the lines before the line beginning "Be ready for my needs." Not surprisingly, he thinks of his own life as being similar to theirs. For his parents, the knives were more than kitchen implements: the parents

...argued, flashed you like batons
at their enemy, themselves, before or after food,

which leads us to the inference that the family was troubled. The poet, like the parents, sees trouble ahead, and likewise asks the knives for protection. The last two lines are a single sentence by themselves, which gives them an appropriate importance:

be ready for whatever waits in half-dark now,
for telltale chance, or fatal cherishing.

It would be interesting to know just what is waiting in half-dark, but no clue is provided.

It's interesting to compare "Their Old Knives" with the previous week's poem by Hirshfield, who found great potency in a mere invitation in the mail. To a number of people (including me) this seemed a little strange. I supposed it had something to do with her experience with Zen. Here we
have another poem about objects, but it's more deeply rooted in ordinary human emotions. A child hangs around the house and becomes closely acquainted with even minor household objects like kitchen knives. When he's an adult and the parents are dead, he's attached to the objects as links to the past. He also inherits his parents' problems, which may explain why he sees them as weapons in the same way they did. Another poem by di Piero, titled "Smoke" can he found here:

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This shows the same fascination with the world of his childhood that is seen in "Their Old Knives", along with the same feeling that life is inherently a violent affair.

Re: Parsing "Their Old Knives"
by zinya
Hi bf,

A very nice, well articulated parsing indeed...

I have a couple of additive comments and one smallish dispute, the latter being that I think this overstates how I read the poet's view of his childhood:

"It's clear that the poet cherishes the life of his childhood, including his parents."

Although "cherishing" is his culminating word, I get a much more pensive, mixed-feeling vibe about his view of his childhood... And "fatal cherishing" taps into some of that "double-edged sword"ness, if you will ... While, on a readily evoked level "fatal cherishing" would suggest loving that which kills you (livers? lunch meats? cutlets?) and killing that which/who you love ('crime of passion'), I think he evokes that final notion to capture much everyday-life kind of double-edged swordness in a way that leaves me feeling the weight of his legacy from his upbringing ...

A couple of other wordings, for me, contribute to this sense:

"unlikely crystal flutes" -- evocative oblique wording for what I take to me unused or unoccasioned champagne glasses - capturing a sense that there wasn't much impulse toward toasting/celebrating to be had in the everyday life where knives were ever-present and crystal flutes stayed on an upper shelf somewhere ... to be passed on to the next generation ...

I find this line particularly complexly intriguing - because of a somewhat unique use of the reflexive "themselves":

the precious few things, except for their lives,
that I saved from the house of the dead,
where they argued, flashed you like batons
at their enemy, themselves, before or after food,

Since it seems unlikely to me that the image he's conjuring up from presumed memory is one where his parents would have flashed knives like batons at their own self (although if they did it would suggest something even more daunting - although it happens in some families - parents threatening to kill themselves in frustration, typically more for emotional manipulation effects, not "seriously") ...

No, what I imagine here is that the poet instead means "themselves" in a way that evokes the notion of family systems theory of how reflexive a whole family 'unit' is ... More plausibly to me, mom flashed a knife at dad at times, and dad flashed one at mom - but "themselves" contributes a sense that they were really one ('enmeshed' if you will) unit where, from a child's point of view, it was - in the context of pre- and post-mealtime argument -- a kind of duel he grew up witnessing that was punctuated by instruments of violence flashed in the air to emphasize the passion ... It's a bit too stereotypical, but the author's last name being Italian would tempt one to imagine the infamous Italian-blooded passion of communication ... where the echoes of much emotionality are "diamond-steeled" into the knives he has inherited from them ...

And the fact that he leaves us with a present-time descriptor of "half-dark" suggests that he himself does not feel he has yet made sense of all that legacy ... that he only in glimpses catches sight of what to retain and what to shelve from that mixed legacy of how to do/be family...

btw, having lived in Manhattan one year of my life, I found the evocation of August weather there to be very rich - and i particularly like "purple" as a verb...
Re: Parsing "Their Old Knives"
by HAP

I had my hair cut yesterday by a woman who had married a man from Greece and lived in Greece, she returned not long ago. She was talking about her opinion of Greek men and I said it sounded to me like she was talking about Italian men (broad generalizations, I’m not casting aspersions). She made a statement in Greek and then translated it for me, it was something along these lines: Italians – Greeks, same-o - same-o.

...argued, flashed you like batons
at their enemy, themselves, before or after food,
Bottomfish: “which leads us to the inference that the family was troubled”.

Or Italian.

be ready for whatever waits in half-dark now,
for telltale chance, or fatal cherishing.

Bottomfish: “It would be interesting to know just what is waiting in half-dark, but no clue is provided”.

Whatever.

I enjoyed reading Smoke; his friends had colorful names.
Re: Parsing "Their Old Knives"
by Bottomfish
Well, y'know, these hot-blooded Mediterranean types -- Greeks, Italians, Spaniards, North Africans ... I never said anything so ethnically sweeping before.
Re: Parsing "Their Old Knives"
by zinya
I meant to also thank you for the link to Smoke ... a powerful one ... The way he lays out his poems, the impact sneaks up on you, it seems ... he saves the wollop - the reverberations and the profounder sizzle - at least in these poems for the culmination in a way that works, imo, that I don't see coming, not to the full extent of how he widens the arc...

I wonder if more of his poems beyond these two take up something of the mundane but (potentially) toxic - knives, smokes - and sees his emotional inner self through their lens ... It's a theme that particularly resonates, not autobiographically, but sort of inter-psychically ...
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