Call the President of the United States a liar on television broadcast worldwide.

And then lamely apologize. And then likely smirk when he is safely back in SC.

Trash.

The Obama plan provides no enforcement mechanism against illegals getting the government insurance. Ergo - Obama lied.

I'm sorry, I thought we actually had other elected officials whose job immigration enforcement actually IS.

Doesn't your assumption mean that because Republicans never stopped illegal immigrants from getting all sorts of government benefits.. they lied about all of their initiatives and programs too?

gringo_911:

The Obama plan provides no enforcement mechanism against illegals getting the government insurance. Ergo - Obama lied.

Hey genius, you ever thought that maybe not giving healthcare to illegals might not be the top priority when figuring out healthcare insurance reform?

I mean, I realize the GOP has to pander to the Southern bigot crowd out there and the first thing they thought of was "well, how do we exclude people from the plan? especially these 'brown' ones that can't speak the language and take siestas all afternoon?" but something tells me they'll get to enforcement for illegal immigration after we settle some other slightly more important things.

Best part is.....y'all continuing to harp over illegal immigration (and the disgraceful treatment of Sonia Sotomayor) is literally guaranteeing generations of Latinos that wouldn't be caught dead registering as a Republican.

Damn y'all have stupid leaders.

gringo_911:

The Obama plan provides no enforcement mechanism against illegals getting the government insurance. Ergo - Obama lied.

So healthcare insurance REPEALS immigration laws? Or is this just another attempt to mis-state the facts of the circumstances?

But lets for the moment presume that Obama DID lie. How does that change the Rules of Order that the House operates under? GWB clearly lied about the Iraq War yet no Dem congressman EVER, I mean EVER called GWB a "liar" with the House Rules of Order.

So how come the GOP suddenly thinks that for something that is just about $$, a cost even less than Iraq, its OK to call a POTUS a liar, but expect full order when a POTUS lies about $$ AND causes the deaths of innocents?

C'mon Gringo. Don't tell me that you don't hold GOP members to the same rules as the Dems. Don't tell me that much vaunted Conservative Values that you hold so dear do NOT include integrity.

northwoods:

Call the President of the United States a liar on television broadcast worldwide.

And then lamely apologize. And then likely smirk when he is safely back in SC.

Trash.

He caught Obama IN A HUGE LIE and he needed to call him out then and there!

While the bills prohibits subsidies to be paid to illegals it will require them to have insurance or buy it from the government. It will also REQUIRE American Citizens to have health insurance (what's up with that?)

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Here is the HUGE LIE you keep telling Pete. That anything you or REP Wilson says even matters - At this point in the game, Republicans and Democrats are 80% in agreement on everything in the bills. Obama's concession to tort reform (by a Harvard lawyer, no less!) is a huge compromise that, for many monetary reasons brings all 3 of the big players, Insurance, Pharma, and Medical Provider lobbyists to the table with a very attentive "OK, we;re listening". Just keep talking your points though. They are very entertaining. By the way, which university did you go to?.

Minnmule:

Here is the HUGE LIE you keep telling Pete. That anything you or REP Wilson says even matters - At this point in the game, Republicans and Democrats are 80% in agreement on everything in the bills.

That is yet another lie Obama told in his speech. There were so many I lost count.

Obama's concession to tort reform (by a Harvard lawyer, no less!) is a huge compromise that, for many monetary reasons brings all 3 of the big players, Insurance, Pharma, and Medical Provider lobbyists to the table with a very attentive "OK, we;re listening".

Democrats getting out of the trial lawyer's back pocket is a concession?

Just keep talking your points though. They are very entertaining. By the way, which university did you go to?.

The University I attended Texas A&M Commerce......My degree is in Sociology/Criminology prior to that I attended New Mexico Military Institute (for Jr. College).

Would you support a national ID which would keep any illegal aliens (from Mars as well as Mexico) from being able to buy into the new system?

northwoods:

Would you support a national ID which would keep any illegal aliens (from Mars as well as Mexico) from being able to buy into the new system?

Nope a birth certificate which can and should be verified will do just fine. BTW a national healthcare ID card will be issued with this plan even to illegals.

If it was "typical" then why didn't all or at least most of the Republicans present do the same thing?

Did they teach you to be a Double Naught Spy there? http://www.pvteye.com/

Did they teach you to be a Double Naught Spy there?

No, Jethro they did not! I did become a pretty good Air Force Officer and Later had an excellent career in Criminal Justice.

Texas A&M Commerce - I know very little about them, are they a part of the land grant university system, or a totally self funded private college that get $0 federal or state dollars? No need to answer, I'll look it up on-line. I suppose though when Obama said that conservatives raised this same fear against government involvement in the college system would kill private colleges, that was just one more lie. Your a coward. Why don't you just say what you really want to about black people and lies?

"Your a coward. Why don't you just say what you really want to about black people....?"

Oh, look-- semi-literate bigoted drivel.

Bravo for life's little ironies...