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Like watching paint dry
by Dawn Coyote..

1. Why is the veracity of the moon landing even a topic of discussion? What’s next? Air travel – HOAX! Submarines – HOAX! Driving to the store for milk – HOAX!

2. Is nagging just part of the job description, and if so, can I trade it for something else – like mowing the lawn, say?

3. Average number of romantic heartbreaks over the lifespan: please estimate. Bonus: provide age range.

4. Sarah Silverman: [about her niece] She called me up and she's like, "Aunt Sarah, did you know that Hitler killed sixty million Jews." And I corrected her and I said, "You know, I think he's responsible for killing six million Jews." And she said, "Oh yeah! Six million! I knew that but seriously, I mean, what's the difference?" "Uh, the difference is sixty million is unforgivable, young lady!"

5. Tarantino’s Nazis as quasi-Americans. Discuss.

6. What he said.

7. Note to Urq: ThyGoddess and I cannot be the same person (even if that person is a cartoon). Or can we? Mwahahaha.

(tagged: "after Schadenfreude")

5.1
by greeneggsnham
Those fucking evil Nazis
by Dawn Coyote..

Did you see the first Transformers? I left the theatre afterwards bitching about the roles for women (2 hawt babes only), the racism (repugnant stereotypes, a black guy is the first to die), and the fact that the entire film seemed like a recruitment video for the U.S. Army (and later learned that they had "cooperated" with the project).

I have this little fantasy about how Tarantino saw that, felt the contempt and disgust that I felt, and made Inglourious Basterds as a cinematic reply.

Re: Those fucking evil Nazis
by artandsoul

Do you also find the National Guard advertisement with Kid Rock nauseating? I certainly do.

Well, did. I don't think they're running it any more.

I saw it
by greeneggsnham

My wife liked it (she saw it in Beijing). She thought it was relaxing. It didn't do much for me.

In the sequel, which my wife took me to see, two of the transformers act and sound like Crazy Negroes from Thuh 'Hood.

Tarantino has made a mixture of a new style action movie, old style action movie (like Where Eagles Dare and the Dirty (Kosher) Dozen), spaghetti western, etc. To me it didn't seem to be a parody of big Summer schlockbusters.

Wasn't thinking of it as parody
by Dawn Coyote..

more like, with just a little imagination, "the shoe is on the other foot."

I may be giving Tarantino too much credit but he does seem to like jeering at the status quo.

Or maybe I'm just trying to find an in-joke which will redeem the movie for me, because I was otherwise unimpressed.

"They hate us for our freedom"
by Dawn Coyote..

If there was ever a bigger mass-market lie, I'm unable to recall it.

That video is icky.

"They hate us for our freedom" is sort of a bookend or equal
by Inkberrow

opposite to "They loved us for our freedoms and conferred upon us High Moral Standing on the world stage, before Bush anyway....."

Wait an minute...
by Dawn Coyote..

Before we go there, you're one of those who is of the opinion that the U.S. is in the Iraqi theater to fight terrorism, right?


"an"?
by Dawn Coyote..
wtf?
A Black Guy
by run75441

Dawn:

Is always the first to die

Not directly, no. But it's not as if there was no
by Inkberrow

connection whatsoever to Muslim terrorism generally, or to 9/11. The neo-cons just didn't have the guts to justify it for what it was, no more and no less---they had to talk New Manifest Destiny, and otherwise gild the lily, viz. with immediate WMD alarums.

The "it" in "justify it for what it was"? Regime change, pure and simple. Given the litany of terrorist attacks on Israel and Western civilian targets since the final defeat of Pan-Muslim conventional military pretensions in the seventies, a litany of attacks culminating in 9/11, the U.S. properly was entitled to remove by force any tinpot Middle Eastern head of state who wanted to play chicken with the U.N., Israel, and the West, as well as any facially cooperative head of state unwilling or unable to not only keep his or her own house clean from but proactively discourage malevolent filth like Osama Bin Laden. Saddam Hussein wanted to rattle his saber even after 9/11, and so an example needed to be made of him for the benefit of other Middle Eastern Muslim placeholders, each one of whom rejoiced and wished to replicate 9/11, some secretly, some openly. Sunni or Shiite, religious or merely observant, they all have implacable common cause re Israel and the West. The Rumsfeld/Kristol neo-con mistake was a combination of a foolish set of Manifest Destiny assumptions concerning the pliability and "Westernability" of the Muslim rank and file, plus politically-driven weakness in the face of progressive humanitarian concerns, leading to the utterly unnecessary and ill-conceived assumption of responsibility for keeping the peace and reforming the Iraqi society. After Saddam's ouster, we should have packed our bags, with the rest of it their own damn business. As if it's our fault if these Adults Not Properly Subject To Our Judgemental Cultural Bigotry decide to kill each other en masse! If another West and Israel-threatening saber-rattler came to power in Iraq, he knows the deal same as his predecessor.

The ahistorical canard indulged in by prog-pacifist critics of our (continued) willingness to commit soldiers to a self-interested foreign policy, is that some Golden Era existed in which America was largely or even notably beloved and/or respected by the so-called "world community", itself an absurd formulation. Ever since America started to hit the big-time industrially and militarily, and exclusively so since Teddy R's famous naval parade around the world, we have been envied, feared, loathed, and distrusted by the vast bulk of world nation-states at any one time. Force and threat of force is the only thing our rivals and detractors have ever understood, and that reality has not altered one jot even if our haters supply and succor "ragtag" (but well-financed) populist/religious "freedom-fighters" as fronts in lieu of conventional engagement. Today's pacifists are as misguided as Lindbergh and his fellow opponents to America's entering WWII. That's still true even though from necessity America's rivals and detractors have forsworn (for now) that conventional frontal engagement in favor of attempts to undercut---through a war of moral attrition, and with the assistance of co-opted American-grown guilt-mongerers---America's national pride, resolve, and bald, unapologetic, unilateral exercise of national will and sovereignty.

I love your
by greeneggsnham

Israelis good, Muslims bad, White Man's Burden approach to the Middle East.

It's so easy to follow.

Re: Not directly, no. But it's not as if there was no
by firstphone
My 1934 Webster defines insurgent.The definition tells all..they could not use the word asshole..
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