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Vick's suspension
by MerrilHoge

Don’t know if you guys even check here for comments on these podcasts, but here it goes anyway…

One of the speakers (don’t know who was who) opined that the NFL code of conduct suspensions were for meant for bad behavior not handled by the legal system, thus adding a suspension for someone who already served 2-years in prison is unnecessary. I agree with this sentiment.

Another speaker responded that this take was “interesting” (as if he’d never heard it argued before), but worried this stance would lead to inconsistent punishments, e.g. if Vick got 0 games & someone got 2 for a minor infraction, the minor infraction would technically be more severe from a league perspective.

I believe this response used an irrelevant argument.

It’s all about the total punishment. Vick gets 2 years out of the NFL, the minor violator gets 2 games. The fact that Vick got 0 league-driven suspended games vs. the guy’s 2 is irrelevant. Vick’s total punishment is more severe.

If it’s the league-driven aspect that bothers you, think of the following. Was Vick perfectly eligible to play in the NFL whilst in prison? No. He effectively had a 32 game suspension. Make it a league rule that any games missed due to prison sentences are considered suspended games. Thus, if the league keeps Vick out for say 5 games, he will have had a 37 game suspension.

Going back to the comparison vs. the minor violator: 32 games vs. 2 games seems fair now, right?
Re: Vick's suspension
by mmontano

The attempt by one speaker to make an analogy between hunting and dog fighting was primitive on so many levels. Very disappointing, says more about the speaker than the topic.

As a faithful listener to all Slate podcasts, I would have to say that this is the least sophisticated discussion of them all.

Re: Vick's suspension
by Foobs

What is the total difference between hunting and dogfighting, other than that society has decided that one is totally OK and the other is the worst thing a person can do? Both activities are based in hurting and killing animals primarily for the purpose of entertaining humans.

But it is easier to just dismiss the comparison as rediculous because... well, someone must have proven the point at some point...

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