inserted the proposal to allow for payment to physicians for the time they spent counseling senior citizens about end-of-life decisions! His name is Isacson and he's from Georgia. How convenient that the Rethugs and their minions neglect mentioning this when some senior they have frightened with their phoney arguements, expresses his/her concerns. Of course, Sarah ignored the fact, too, in her attempt to trump up hate against Obama!

Republicans sure look like fools protesting their own parties Healthcare Amendment! OOOPS! Palin is so stupid she jumped right in as well!

first, his name is Isakson, and second, he has posted a letter stating he had nothing what's so ever to do with this bill, further chiding the White house by saying:

"This is what happens when the President and members of Congress don’t read the bills. The White House and others are merely attempting to deflect attention from the intense negativity caused by their unpopular policies."

see what happens when you get all your talking points from your handlers at KOS and Moveon? Seriously, two minute on google, you could have checked your facts.

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KA

he, he, he

...was one of the main sponsors of a bill from 2007 covering this topic.

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Johnny Isakson, the Georgia Republican who authored Senate legislation providing Medicare coverage for end-of-life planning said:

I just had a phone call where someone said Sarah Palin's web site had talked about the House bill having death panels on it where people would be euthanized. How someone could take an end of life directive or a living will as that is nuts. You're putting the authority in the individual rather than the government. I don't know how that got so mixed up.

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Obama: "The irony is that actually one of the chief sponsors of this bill originally was a Republican -- then House member, now senator, named Johnny Isakson from Georgia -- who very sensibly thought this is something that would expand people's options. And somehow it's gotten spun into this idea of "death panels." I am not in favor of that. So just I want to -- (applause.) I want to clear the air here."

In a conversation he had with Washington Post blogger Ezra Klein on end-of-life issues, Isakson sounds like he's for Medicare patients discussing these things with their doctors.

Isakson also sponsored a bill in 2007, that would "amend title XVIII of the Social Security Act to provide for coverage of an end-of-life planning consultation as part of an initial preventive physical examination under the Medicare program." That's very similar to what the House bill would do, although with much less specificity.

Why is there so much denial that this is in the bill?

legislation?

So why did he bring it up?

KA

Hey, K-liar, why don't you call everyone on the Fray on their typos? Here's a suggestion: you have nothing else to offer! Just for the hell of it, why don't you try doing all your posting, as well as everything else in your life, with the use of just one hand, like I do! My situation is thanks to an auto accident caused by as drunk Rethug who t-boned my car when he burned through a red light. His blood alcohol content was 1.9, and his dirty pick-up was plastered with Bush/ Quayle stickers, left over from the firsr Bush debacle. He had a record of 14 DUI convictions and was driving without a valid license. I'm sorry I offended your Rethug "sensibilities" with a typographical error, idiot!

The provision in ONE of the 5 different bills being considered was that doctors can be paid for providing counseling to people, including living wills, end of life wishes, etc, once every five years. People do not need to take advantage of this - they can choose to receive the counseling or not as they wish.

Isakson promoted the same thing in 2007, with minor verbiage differences.

amfh:

The provision in ONE of the 5 different bills being considered was that doctors can be paid for providing counseling to people, including living wills, end of life wishes, etc, once every five years. People do not need to take advantage of this - they can choose to receive the counseling or not as they wish.

Isakson promoted the same thing in 2007, with minor verbiage differences.

Then publish the portion of the bill to alay people's fears and anger.

Was it in the version that passed the House committee? I thought it was.

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Kal is the pot calling the kettle black.

I am very sorry, by the way, that learn you had to endure such a terrible accident. I do hope the person who caused you such pain was put in jail.

It's all over the net - here's one link to the exact verbiage of Section 1233

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The guy got six months, and got another DUI a few days after getting out. That time he killed a mother and her little girl and got five years. He died in prison, and I got a "life sentence" of disability because the Bush tax cuts and Dubya's war for profit left the state with too few resources to keep up law enforcement.

SmartLady:

The guy got six months, and got another DUI a few days after getting out. That time he killed a mother and her little girl and got five years. He died in prison, and I got a "life sentence" of disability because the Bush tax cuts and Dubya's war for profit left the state with too few resources to keep up law enforcement.

Kal_Aline:

first, his name is Isakson, and second, he has posted a letter stating he had nothing what's so ever to do with this bill, further chiding the White house by saying:

"This is what happens when the President and members of Congress don’t read the bills. The White House and others are merely attempting to deflect attention from the intense negativity caused by their unpopular policies."

see what happens when you get all your talking points from your handlers at KOS and Moveon? Seriously, two minute on google, you could have checked your facts.

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KA

he, he, he

he he he - Read the whole story -

Isakson’s amendment to the Senate bill says that anyone who participates in the long-term care benefit in which they put their own money into a health savings account may use their money in this account – if they so choose -- to obtain legal assistance in formulating their own living will and durable power of attorney.

vs HR3200:

the term ‘advance care planning consultation’ means a consultation between the individual and a practitioner described in paragraph (2) regarding advance care planning, if the individual involved has not had such a consultation within the last 5 years. Such consultation shall include the following :
‘‘(A) An explanation by the practitioner of advance care planning, including key questions and considerations, important steps, and suggested people to talk to. ‘‘(B) An explanation by the practitioner of advance directives, including living wills and durable powers of attorney, and their uses.‘‘

As far as I can tell, the only difference between the Rep plan and this bill - the Rep plan requires you to use money out of your HSA, HR3200 includes the costs of consultation as an insurance benefit.