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If Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in th flag
by shep
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and carrying a cross"... Sinclair Lewis.

Here is another section of the Wikipedia article on the Family/Fellowship. I very stri-ongly urge you to go to Wikipedia and consult the entire article....

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Beliefs

The Fellowship's 501(c)(3) mission statement is:

To develop and maintain an informal association of people banded together, to go out as "ambassadors of reconciliation," modeling the principles of Jesus, based on loving God and loving others. To work with the leaders of other nations, and as their hearts are touched, the poor, the oppressed, the widows and the youth of their country will be impacted in a positive manner. It is said that youth groups will be developed under the thoughts of Jesus, including loving others as you want to be loved.

The Family believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes through these information associations.

The Family represents "Jesus plus nothing," as its leader, Doug Coe, puts it, the "totalitarianism of God," in the words of an early Family leader, a vision that encompasses not just social issues but also the kind of free-market fundamentalism that is the real object of devotion for core members and insiders.[17] At the heart of the Family's spiritual advice for its proxies in Congress is the conviction that the market's invisible hand represents the guidance of God, and that God wants his "new chosen" to look out for one another.[17]

As reported by Andrea Mitchell and Jim Popkin for NBC News, Fellowship leader Doug Coe repeatedly urges a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that he compares to the blind devotion that Adolf Hitler demanded from his followers.[18] Coe has stated "Hitler, Goebbels and Himmler were three men. Think of the immense power these three men had, these nobodies from nowhere," and later in the same sermon: "Jesus said, ‘You have to put me before other people. And you have to put me before yourself.' Hitler, that was the demand to be in the Nazi party. You have to put the Nazi party and its objectives ahead of your own life and ahead of other people."[18]

Doug Coe also refers to the Fellowship as the "Christian Mafia" and is on record saying that he tries to make the group act like the Mafia because the more invisible you can make your organization, the more influence it will have.[19]

In its emphasis on secrecy and its attempts to influence government policies and extensive links to America's leading politicians, the operation of the Family raises questions regarding the separation of church and state. At least one influential Family member, Senator Mark Pryor, stated that through the Family he had learned that the separation of church and state was a sort of secular exaggeration and that “Jesus did not come to bring peace. Jesus came to take over.”[19]

[edit] Secrecy

Although a goal of the Family is to influence politics and a large number of Senators and Representatives live in or are affiliated with the institution, the Family has long been a secretive organization that is not widely understood.[20][21] Concerned about growing publicity, Fellowship Founder Abraham Vereide wrote a letter in 1966 declaring it time to “submerge the institutional image of [the Family].”[17] Former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said the group has “made a fetish of being invisible."[22]

In 1985, President Ronald Reagan stated about the Family, "I wish I could say more about it, but it's working precisely because it is private."[13]

At the 1990 National Prayer Breakfast, President George H. W. Bush praised Doug Coe for what he described as "quiet diplomacy, I wouldn't say secret diplomacy."[13] Bush was apparently ignorant of one of the nation's oldest laws, the Logan Act, which forbids private citizens to do just that lest foreign policy slip out of democratic control.[13]

"If I told you who has participated and who participates until this day, you would not believe it," the Family's longtime leader, Doug Coe, said in a rare interview in 2001. "You'd say, ‘You mean that scoundrel? That despot?'"[13]

On July 10, 2009, the Knoxville News Sentinel reported that Representative and C Street resident Zach Wamp said in an interview that he and his fellow residents at C Street have agreed not to publicly discuss their living arrangements.[23] When Rachel Maddow repeated the story on her show, Wamp complained, but the Knoxville News Sentinel stated that Wamp did not call them to correct his comment.[24] Maddow responded to Wamp's complaints on air.[25]

When asked if he takes part in "fellowship" activities at the C Street Center, fellow resident Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) says he just rents a room, but doesn't know what goes on there. Stupak refuses to "discuss what goes on there, because I'm not there.... Are there other activities going on there? Yes. But what goes on and things like that, I don't know. I have my room there." Pressed again about whether he's "involved" in any "activities" at the house, Stupak responded, "I have a room there. And I participate in a Tuesday night dinner once in a while there.... So there is no regimen. There is no group stuff I have to do.... You guys... are grasping at straws that's not there. I rent a room there... I do not belong to any such group. I don't know what you are talking about.... I have no affiliation," he said.[26]

Pete Hoekstra, another Congressman who attended the Tuesday night dinners mentioned by Stupak, described them to The Detroit News: "We'd fellowship, we'd pray, we'd talk about Jesus, and we'd eat." Hoekstra continued, "In the headiness of Washington, D.C., it's trying to make sure you keep your head screwed on straight."[26]

Reverend Rob Schenck, who leads a Bible study on the Hill inspired by C Street, wrote in 2009 that "all ministries in Washington need to protect the confidence of those we minister to, and I'm sure that's a primary motive for C Street's low profile." But he said, "I think the Fellowship has been just a tad bit too clandestine."[20][27]

While it conducts no public fundraising, the Fellowship Foundation has reported significant anonymous donations that are made each year:

  • In 2001, more than $10.3 million
  • In 2002, more than $10.8 million
  • In 2003, more than $11.4 million
  • In 2004, more than $12.1 million
  • In 2005, more than $14.7 million
  • In 2006, more than $13.4 million

The Fellowship also has reported plus membership fees of at least $1.1 million in 2002, 2003 and 2004.

Thanks for reading. Please go look at the entire article... before it is hacked out of existence.

Shep

Re: "and carrying a bible"
by MasterJay

I was finishing your thought when I opened your post...

This is at both levels...frightening when you hear what they believe and espose,and sickening when you view the hypocrisy of Ensign,Sanford<pickering et al.

Good Post.

Re: If Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in th flag
by Boss Greer
shep:

and carrying a cross"... Sinclair Lewis.

While I acknowledge Mr. Lewis' talents, I'm not in the habit of assigning prophetic authority to alcoholic, anti-capitalist fiction writers...

But if I were, I might use the following,

“The trouble with this country is that there are too many people going about saying, ''The trouble with this country is...''”

Re: If Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in th flag
by JUST_IN_CASE

Boss, the trouble with this country is the trouble of this country, none of which anyone can pinpoint in a precise manner so as to make adjustments to satisfy a majority without upsetting a minority. It's known as democracy, I suppose, in a loose fashion but quite practical as opposed to a hierarchy which could evolve from a religiously-formulated convention such as Shep is bringing into focus.

I have chatted one-on-one with several people who were alive and well when Hitler siezed power and have listened to their awkward confessions about not really comprehending what his goals were when, in fact, he made them quite evident in his writings of those times. But when you pin them down they oftentimes admit they grew suspicious but still did nothing. WHY? Because it was rule with an iron fist and to even consider opposing the movement meant either prison, or death, or misery. The existence of the death camps is a primary example of "denial of the obvious", with people living in close proximity ignoring what took place. Hell, their eyes and ears and noses had to be evidence enough that everything was not kosher.

We can sit on our asses and pretend nothing is afoot in this country but, like the Germans of pe-WW2 days, we're only kidding outselves. The original theme of this country as envisioned by the founding fathers was to keep separate the church and the state and however hard that has been to do, so far we've managed to heed their teachings. If the agenda Shep has exposed is allowed to continue I can see where we could be mentally usurped into buying into such a program without realizing the real outcome in the end. It would become a dictatorship of astounding revelations.

Gramps

Re: If Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in th flag
by TickleBob

What´s sort of dumb about your comments is that you were among those claiming that facism was in America in the name of George W. Bush. Now, it´s a different boogy man.

Same boogeyman.. GOP Dominion Theology.
by shep

Just tuti-frutti instead of vanilla. But, remember, Hitler and Mussolini were fairly fruity too. They still damn near destroyed the Free World.

Shep

Re: If Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in th flag
by Wahbooz
'Amen', Gramps.
Re: Same boogeyman.. GOP Dominion Theology.
by Wahbooz
"Here comes the new boss, same as the old boss".
Re: If Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in th flag
by JackDallas

It's already here. It arrived January 20, of this year.

Jack

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