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One thing we learned
by dmac225
One thing we learned about Sotomayor is she is a lier. Read her speeches where she made the "a wise latina woman" is smarter than any white guy comment. In the speeches she is clearly expressing her disagreement with a comment judge Ginsburg had made about how an old man and an old woman would/should reach similiar decisions if they both used sound judgement in making those decisions. Then in the confirmation hearings she claimed she made the "wise latina" comment as a way to show her agreement with Ginburg's comment. So which is it? Does she agree or disagree with Ginsbug's comment? Was she lying then or is she lying now?
Re: One thing we learned
by wayhey1

The actual quote is, "I would hope that a wise Latina woman, with the richness of her experiences, would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

Wisdom comes from experience? How shocking!

reach a better conclusion
by jazzguitarman

Reach a better conclusion, for who???? Who defines a 'better conclusion'?

A group of white males would, 'more often than not' define a 'better conclusion' as favoring white males, just like a group of Latina women would define a 'better conclusion' as favoring a group of Latina women.

I don't see any wisdom in either outcome, just basic human nature. People tend to favor those that look like them!

Re: reach a better conclusion
by Philadelphia Steve

dmac225 was referring to the FoxNews conclusion: which is that anyone nominated by a Socialist, Muslim, foreign born Democratic president must be the worst thing that has ever happened to America. Just ask Glen Beck.

Re: reach a better conclusion
by jazzguitarman

Do you represent dmac225?

Anyhow, the 'better conclusion' point was bogus and Sotomayer admited that. Glen Beck is a complete moron and asshole.

Re: reach a better conclusion
by Philadelphia Steve

Dmac225 is just like every other Republican/Conservative in America.

He/She is filled with hate, directed at an America that failed to appreciate what a grand gift God presented to our country in the person of George w. Bush.

As a result of that insane level of hate for Barak Obama and the country that elected him, Conservatives now wish to impose the most pain and suffering on the United States as revenge. They will do everything in their power to make every effort to make America better fail. They will never have an idea of their own, just hate for “everything Obama”.

They will declare their belief in demonsratably false concepts (such as “Barak Obama was born in Kenya” to express their hate.

Conservatives really, really hate America, as an extension of their hatred of President Obama. There is no one that Barak Obama could have nominated that dmac225 would not have hated. Regardless.

And I see no reason why we should treat this poster as someone who actually has America’s best interests at heart, as opposed to following Rush Limbaugh’s orders.

I do not speak for dmac225. But I know dozens or (relatives and friends) who are exactly the same: and the hatred is palpable, and shows in their every thought, word and action.

And, while Conservatives will declare Glen Beck a "moron" in places such as this, they will also hang on his (or Sean Hannity's) every word whenthey are on Fox.

we can agree to disagree
by jazzguitarman

At least you have admitted before that YOU are also full of hate. Really full of hate for every Con in America.

While I disagree with a lot of their views on policy issues I do NOT believe they hate America. That is just total nonsense and a really immature point of view. While I also know many that hate all things Obama, that doesn't equate to hating America (it just equates to someone with a very limit capacity).

Con are misguided, they are often morons that believe in BS like the bible, ID, etc,, but they don't hate America. Note that Con also believe every Lib hates America.

A nation cannot survive if each side believes the other side hates the nation. We have to find some common ground or we are toast.

Re: we can agree to disagree
by Philadelphia Steve

Then get your Conservative hero, Ann coulter, to stop calling Liberals "Traitors", a crime that carries the death penalty. And exactly how many prominent Republicans have denounced her for it? (the same number who have defied Rush Limbaugh).

Why should I be the first one to compromise with a group that believes I should be put to death for my political beliefs. Let Sean Hannity say one good word about Barak Obama, just once, and I will make a move.

are you really that stupid????
by jazzguitarman

I'm not a conservative, NOT NOT NOT, but since you are so immature and so full of hate if I don't agree with every fucking thing you say then I'm one of THEM!

Ann Coulter, Rush, Hannity, Beck, Bill O, are complete assholes.

My point AGAIN, is that every Con is NOT like these assholes!!! NOT NOT NOT.

Do you go kill policemen or blow up buildings? Well some LIBS did those things years ago. Thus using your type of 'logic' every LIB does these things!

Really you are no different than the people you hate. Really, no different. You appear to be just another intolerant and immature a-hole but with liberal views.

YES, you pissed me off with the 'Then get your Conservative hero' comment. You have no clue no much I hate that bitch! No clue at all!

Re: are you really that stupid????
by Philadelphia Steve

I'm not a conservative, NOT NOT NOT, but since you are so immature and so full of hate if I don't agree with every fucking thing you say then I'm one of THEM!

I never said I hated anyone. But every Conservative in America gives them a free pass (in election years), then pretends they are “in with Rush” in odd numbered years.

Ann Coulter, Rush, Hannity, Beck, Bill O, are complete assholes.

Show me one Republican who says so? When the RNC chairman called Rush Limbaugh “divisive” he had to crawl on his belly to apologize.

My point AGAIN, is that every Con is NOT like these assholes!!! NOT NOT NOT.

OK. Show me a leading Republican, with national party influence, who is willing to distance him/herself from Rush. The RNC Chair had to crawl on his belly for a single comment.

Do you go kill policemen or blow up buildings? Well some LIBS did those things years ago. Thus using your type of 'logic' every LIB does these things!

At the University of Minnesota, once. Conservative Timothy McVeigh blew up an entire federal building, killing quite a few. Bill O’Rielly put up a picture of an abortion doctor, calling him a “murderer”, and a Conservative took him at his word. Bill is still one of the leading Conservative voices of America. Can you name on Conservative who took him to task for his behavior? Another Free Pass.

Really you are no different than the people you hate. Really, no different. You appear to be just another intolerant and immature a-hole but with liberal views.

Show me one time I said I hated anyone.

YES, you pissed me off with the 'Then get your Conservative hero' comment. You have no clue no much I hate that bitch! No clue at all!

Then get Conservatives to stop lionizing her? Show me one Conservative who will disagree with her, (by name, not generically). If not, then Conservatives love having her out front, speaking for them.

Re: are you really that stupid????
by Philadelphia Steve

And now Lou Dobbs, who is used to be not considered one of the FoxNews Extremists, has joined the Birthers.

Don't tell me that Conservatives are not seething with hatred, from top to bottom.

you need to get out more
by jazzguitarman

I know many cons and members of the GOP that don't agree with Colter or Rush. Really to believe these far right cons represent all cons is just insane. To even ask 'show me one con' and to underline the word 'one' shows that you have lost it and are no better than the ones you hate so much. Note that the talking heads cons in the media do NOT represent EVERY con. Just like MoveOn.org doesn't represent every lib.

AND you have said in prior post that you hate cons. So how you are just being dishonest. Not to me, but to yourself.

Re: you need to get out more
by Philadelphia Steve

I never used the word "hate". It is anger at what Conservatives, such as George W.Bush, and Tom DeLay have done to my country.

And I still do not see any Conservatives names in youre "rebuttal" regarding prominent Conservatives who have publicly denounced Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter (ones who still have national influence and have not retired from the national stage as Christie Todd Whitman has done).

Re: you need to get out more
by Philadelphia Steve

If there are so many, you should have no problem listing half a dozen prominent Republicans/Conservatives who will be running for (re)election in the next couple of years who have publicly denounced Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter.

You can start with the two from Maine: They are certainly in the mainstream of the Republican party and have a strong voice in RNC policy, don't they?

I'm sure there are lots of other Republicans in the House of Representatives who have made similar statements.

And their names are....

Re: you need to get out more
by Philadelphia Steve

I know many cons and members of the GOP that don't agree with Colter or Rush. Really to believe these far right cons represent all cons is just insane.

Then why aren't they speaking for the Republican party? The only people who speak on behalf of Conservatives and Republicans I ever see on Fox news (the official Republican outlet) are Ann Coulter, Bill O'Rielly, Glen Beck and Sean Hannity. Where are these Conservatives who publicly disagree with Rush and Ann?

Are they invisible?

Or do they just whisper their disagreements, away from microphones because they know that anyone who publicly disagrees with Rush have to grovel I apology, as the chair of the RNC did.

If they do not make their disagreements public, then the "disagreements" do not exist.

And your claim that they "exist", even if we can't see them counts for nothing.

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