Re: We dont need another actor as prez
by
RML
09/07/2007, 12:25 PM #
Clinton was a very successful candidate if you measure it in terms of the average Americsans' requirements. A good job (where you make enough to keep your home and still save a little) is something which all who work diserve-republicans instead fight to keep the minimum wage as low as possible because (gosh) small business would be impacted in a negative way (which is a lie since employees are a business cost-a write off fot the business--any impact would be for one year at best and most businesses file their taxes quarterly). Clinton oversaw massive growth in jobs paying a good wage while job growth under Bush (after massive job loss) is mainly in those very minimum wage jobs which dont pay enough for the average person to survive without more.
Clinton's foreign policy saw no major wars and only involvement which made sense like taking down the genocidal Milosivich and fighting chaos and lawlessness in Somalia (and I just love how cons point to Somalia as if Clinton was the one who had bad maps and poor support for the Blackhawk--seems to me our "expert" troops and their "expert" leaders f-cked up and want to blame Clinton for putting them there--still we lost few people there-Bush's war is over 3500 and thats just dead Americans.
Terrorism has been around a long time but was seen as the acts of a small burt fanatical group of people (and Tim McVeigh was American FYI). Clinton saw his portion of terror as have most presidents-he handled it as well as anyone and guess what-the first WTC bombers are in jail and Tim McVeigh was executed for his terror attack. Bush's war has become the Alamo battle cry which unites terrorists and increases their numbers-now they point to Iraq and say America is indeed an invading imperialist nation after the oil in the middle east-before there was no evidence to support their claims-Bush has changed all that and the result is many many more terrorists, more supporters who see a logic to the terroeist claims based on our presence in Iraq, and has the terrorism been stopped? Nope.
So massive economic success for the middle and working class is negative? Avoiding massive debt and war is negative? Going after the correct terrorists and jailing or killing them is bad? I call that a successful presidency.
You are prepared to call Clinton bad because (gasp) he had sex with a consenting adult and lied about it to a republican "Get Clinton" fishing expedition. All it took the cons was several million of your tax dollars and wasted time to prove Clinton got head. Bravo.
Bush lied to us to start a war-he said there were WMD ready to be used on us and there were none. He said there was a connection to 911 and there was none. He refused to testify under oath about any of those topics and he has refused to testify under oath about the potential connections to Saudi Arabia (his family is financially tied to Saudi Arabia in a major way). I am supposed to believe that he is perfectly honest (even though he wont take the oath) and I am supposed to believe that he didnt know there were no WMD when he said there were. But hey, he didnt have sex so all the damage he did is OK. Clintin did a great job as president but he had sex, so that makes him a bad president.
The logic of a neocon is simply non-existent. Unless of course you just parrott what your radio and TV talking heads tell you to.