In a country were the President is black or part black which seem to be forgotten by the press, do we really need affirmative action or is it another goverment program that has out lasted it's usefullness?

If you studied and passed a test for a job and then were told you would not get that job, would you not be peeved? These guys stood up for their rights and the system got it right. God Bless America!

To answer your question on Affirmative Action, lets look at the justices that ruled in Ricci's favor

• Roberts, - white male, was in 3rd Grade before all state school systems complied with BrownVBoard of Ed
• Alito - was already in 1st Grade by the time BrownVBoardofEd was litigated, and in HS by the time all state school systems complied
• Scalia - Graduated Law School before BrownVBoard even began to be fully applied to all states
• Kennedy - same as Scalia
• Thomas - Thomas was in 2nd grade before BrownVBoard was litigated and most of the way through HS before it was implemented.

So you have 5 old men, 4 of them white - ALL of them raised during an era in which segregation and racism were not only legal, but the Law Of The Land.

So explain to me again how the time for Affirmative Action has passed? Particularly in light of the recent Academy of Management Study demonstrating continued existance of unearned preferences given to white males in any subjective evaluation setting.

As for being peeved - sure, but being peeved isn't the same thing as having your rights violated. There was no violation of rights. Kennedy just made up new law out of whole cloth.

SEC. 703. (a) It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer--

(1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin; or

(2) to limit, segregate, or classify his employees in any way which would deprive or tend to deprive any individual of employment opportunities or otherwise adversely affect his status as an employee, because of such individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

(b) It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employment agency to fail or refuse to refer for employment, or otherwise to discriminate against, any individual because of his race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, or to classify or refer for employment any individual on the basis of his race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

Read section 2 chapter(k) and tell us what it means.

Also explain how one avoides discriminating on the basis of race when white males are given daily unearned priviledges?

You seemingly cannot read them.

As for your claims that all white males are given unearned privlige at the expense of all blacks - you failed to prove this in all cases except your own. Now, I agree that all YOUR life achievements are unearned - but I suggest you be a tad more careful when you try to insinuate this about other people, whose lives and work you are not familiar with. After all, you cannot simply project your own personal failures on all people who are unfortunate enough to share same race and sex with you.

no amount of evidence will convince a racist like you that white male privilege exists. But it does, and the studies all show it does,

Try again. Without ad hominem and after re-reading Section (k)

solely because of the color of my skin - and you call me "racist". Things are getting curioser and curioser.

Anyway, there are no studies that looked at all 300 million people and decided all whites are priviliged, while all blacks are under-priviliged. And lacking any physical law being discovered recently - you are butt naked on this subject. I mean, if I don't count you personal feeling that you don't deserve what you got.

Racism requires the imposition of a myth. It is not a myth that white males receive unearned privledge.

there are no studies that looked at all 300 million people and decided all whites are priviliged,

Nor are there studies that looked at 300 million people and decided that all obese people are at elevated health risk or that all smokers are at elevated health risk.

Hell there aren't even studies that looked at all the electrons in the CPU that you are typing your vitriol with.

But that doesn't preclude the validity of exteneding the studies by induction to the broader population.

Try again.

Racism requires the imposition of a myth. It is not a myth that white males receive unearned privledge.

there are no studies that looked at all 300 million people and decided all whites are priviliged,

Nor are there studies that looked at 300 million people and decided that all obese people are at elevated health risk or that all smokers are at elevated health risk.

Hell there aren't even studies that looked at all the electrons in the CPU that you are typing your vitriol with.

But that doesn't preclude the validity of exteneding the studies by induction to the broader population.

Try again.

Racism requires the imposition of a myth. It is not a myth that white males receive unearned privledge.

You cannot present any evidence to prove that all white males receive unearned privilige.

there are no studies that looked at all 300 million people and decided all whites are priviliged,

Nor are there studies that looked at 300 million people and decided that all obese people are at elevated health risk or that all smokers are at elevated health risk.

Nor is there any evidence that would prove any similarity between obesity effects on health and whiteness on privilige.

Hell there aren't even studies that looked at all the electrons in the CPU that you are typing your vitriol with.

But the theory of quantum mechanics is proven everyday - the CPU's work. You have nothing to prove that your theory works.

But that doesn't preclude the validity of exteneding the studies by induction to the broader population.

Nothing supports the validity. Let me try to say this once again - NOTHING.

Try again.

You claim that racial privilige can be assertained from studies of a very few people by some liberal "researchers" in the same fashion as the effects of obesity on health. But you provide no evidence to link those two. It does appear that Astrology is a better analogy for your racial studies than medical science.

Repeating your claim doesn't make it any more correct:

You cannot present any evidence to prove that all white males receive unearned privilige.

Done. In this thread as well as others. Sorry. You don't like it so you dismiss it, but the preponderance of evidence (which IS the legal standard) is there.

But the theory of quantum mechanics is proven everyday - the CPU's work. You have nothing to prove that your theory works.

Study after study in aspect of life after aspect of life. Again, preponderance of evidence, which is what the law requires

You claim that racial privilige can be assertained from studies of a very few people by some liberal "researchers" in the same fashion as the effects of obesity on health. But you provide no evidence to link those two.

Wrong on that. They both use well docuemented, supported and mathematically sound statistical analysis. And the result is a preponderance of evidence, which is what the legal standard is.

Tell me what empirical evidence you believe proves that ALL white males are given unearned advantage - and I will kick it down with the prooff that ALL black males are given unearned advantage.

Take your best shot, comrade.

You have already had it presented and you weren't able to "kick it down" back then. But feel free to go dig up the links to the Federal Reserve, Academy of Management, Chicago Housing Authority, and various others who have consistently found white men are treated preferentially to everyone else across the broad spectrum of society and life.

in the New York slimes. Seriously, kid, you believe this study proves that ALL white males are preferenced over all blacks? Surely you are not stupid enough to make this conclusion.

As for the rest - all the studies that your liberal race pimps tried to push were either debunked, or are very easy to debunk. You have to come up with something new...

Hmm ad hominem and a rhetorical question.

Hardly an insightful critique of the study put forth by the Academy of Management Journal.

And exactly why would a study demonstrating subjective evaluations consistently give white males unearned preference (privilege) NOT be applicable to white males?