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Obama Birth Certificate?
by JimminyII

Obama Birth Certificate?

From FactCheck:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.”

My note:

That MIGHT leave him a U.S. citizen BUT NOT a natural born U.S. citizen. He was/is a natural born KENYAN!!!

Re: Obama Birth Certificate?
by Wulk
Honolulu isn't part of the US?????
Re: Obama Birth Certificate?
by Boss Greer
JimminyII:

Obama Birth Certificate?

From FactCheck:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.”

My note:

That MIGHT leave him a U.S. citizen BUT NOT a natural born U.S. citizen. He was/is a natural born KENYAN!!!

Wrong. If he was born in the US he's a natural born US citizen unless he deliberately renounces his US citizenship by word and/or deed. End of story.

It appears
by scully
you need a tin foil cap.
Livebait, dictionaries, and the joy of the www
by shep

GrassHopper, try again to understand.

Words have meanings.

You are not free to ascribe any meaning you want to just any old word.. unless, of course, you only plan to talk to yourself...(heheh hhee).. which, increasingly, you seem to be doing here on KFS.

"Nazi" refers to a far-RIGHT-wing ideology and its practitioners. Not Liberal.

"Natural-born citizen" refers to one's place of birth ONLY. Not parents' citizenship.

Get a dictionary. Use it. Use Wikipedia. Learn to speak English.

Most of your arguments here on KFS trip themselves up on just such simple cases of misuse or misunderstanding of generally-understood words on your part.

Sincerely, Shep

P.S. I bet you would seem much smarter if you made sure to use the right words.

Re: Obama Birth Certificate?
by TickleBob
JimminyII:

Obama Birth Certificate?

From FactCheck:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire.

This is sly, so you have to be careful how you read and use it. Here FactCheck wants you to believe Obama was born in Honolulu. Then the Kenyen and British stuff becomes meaningless because Honolulu is an American city in an American State.

Obama´s grandmother claims to have been eye wittness to his birth in a Kenyan hut IN KENYA. so, the result it, he is not a natural born citizen of the United States. To prove my poit, Obama will cotinue to fight any effort to produce his hospital produced original birth registration... because it does not exist.

Throw the Kenyan born occupant of the Publics housing in the streets along with long forgotten Auntie Zeituni, his other illegal immigrant family living on the public´s tab.

TB, the Uppity Darkie is gonna GETCHA!
by shep

Get used to it. Some really fine, bright, decent people have dark skins.

And some 24-carat stupid pricks have classic Aryan features.

Why exactly do you dislike Uppity Darkies, TB??

Tell us.Don't keep it in, brother Let it hang all de way out..

We all theah fo' you!

Shep

Re: TB, the Uppity Darkie is gonna GETCHA!
by TickleBob
shep:

Get used to it. Some really fine, bright, decent people have dark skins.

And some 24-carat stupid pricks have classic Aryan features.

Why exactly do you dislike Uppity Darkies, TB??

Tell us.Don't keep it in, brother Let it hang all de way out..

We all theah fo' you!

Shep

Actually I find it condesending that you refer to him as ¨uppity darkie¨ instead of Black or Kenyan American. I am not opposed to Obama because he is Black, I am opposed to his policies that seem RED. They are most certainly creating red ink in the American balance sheet.

It´s you who used racist terms, when I call him a Kenyan Muslim, that is not racist, its probably the closest description to him there is. Here if you insist on calling him an ¨ùppity darkie¨ I will just consider you about same level as Biden who refered to him as ¨clean and articulate story-book BOY¨.

LOL - you goofs.

Re: TB, the Uppity Darkie is gonna GETCHA!
by shep

We on KFS have watched and listened to your racist rants for years, Tuberculosis.

We are NOT fooled by your pious declarations of bigotry-free innocence in your current irrational rages against Barack Hussein Obama, POTUS.

Nosah! We NOT fooled. Bred N Born in da Briar Patch, B'rer Fox.

Shep

Re: Obama Birth Certificate?
by JimminyII
To be a natural born citizen your parents must be citizens [note the plural].
Re: Obama Birth Certificate?
by Wulk
Since when, Jimmy?
Re: Livebait, dictionaries, and the joy of the www
by JimminyII

"Natural-born citizen" refers to one's place of birth ONLY. Not parents' citizenship.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! WRONG! You best do a little reading of your own
read <link>

The birth of hussein obama in Kenya does NOT allow him to be a natural born citizen. The "Certification of Live Birth" tells you nothing about WHERE he was born. It was also issued to people who were not born in the US. The "Certificate of Live Birth" lists where you were born,, everything but why. Now if he was born in Kenya, his mom was not old enough to qualify [see g of TITLE 8 1401]!!!!! The detractors are saying she had not spent two years in the US after age 14, before hussein was born.

It is estimated he has spent about $900,000 fighting lawsuits about his birth certificate.. IF he has nothing to hide that's in the certificate then why not spend $10 and put it on the website???

Where the hell did I use the word NAZI? OH, only Fascist refers to liberals??

Poor, demented, deluded, obsessive, bigoted Livebait!!!
by shep

You really are not worth the few calories I have burned typing replies to you.

Hate Black People Much?

BTW.. Nazis are German Fascists and their non-German acolytes, admirers, and supporters>>> i.e.; people like von Brunn. Mussolini invented 20th century EuroFascism.. and Hitler followed suite a few years later... otherwise we would say that Fascists were Italian Nazis.

Goodbye.. and fry in hell, you bigoted bastard.

Shep

Re: TB, the Uppity Darkie is gonna GETCHA!
by TickleBob
shep:

We on KFS have watched and listened to your racist rants for years, Tuberculosis.

We are NOT fooled by your pious declarations of bigotry-free innocence in your current irrational rages against Barack Hussein Obama, POTUS.

Nosah! We NOT fooled. Bred N Born in da Briar Patch, B'rer Fox.

Shep

You should be able to point our various examples then without a lot of trouble. Let´s see your idea of my racist rants.

A little reading for Jimminy & Tickle
by KnotaFrayed
JimminyII:

The "Certification of Live Birth" tells you nothing about WHERE he was born.

Nothing about WHERE he was born????????

Its ALREADY up on a website.

Accepted as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding. [HRS 338-13(b), 338-19]

Definition of prima facie

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About Philip J. Berg;

"Berg filed a complaint in federal district court on August 21, 2008, against Democratic Party presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, alleging that Obama was born actually in Mombasa, Kenya and that the "Certification of Live Birth" on Obama's website is a forgery. The court dismissed the complaint as "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."[10][11] The judge also found that the harm Berg alleged did "not constitute an injury in fact" and that Berg's arguments to the contrary "ventured into the unreasonable."[10][11] Berg filed a petition for writ of certiorari to the United States Supreme Court and also sought an injunction to suspend the election. The injunction was denied by Justice David Souter on November 3, 2008. Berg also sought an application for injunction pending the disposition of the petition for writ of certiorari; Justice Souter denied it, Berg refiled and submitted it to Justice Anthony Kennedy (who denied it), then refiled and submitted it to Justice Antonin Scalia, who referred it to the Court. On January 12, 2009, the Supreme Court denied Berg's petition for writ of certiorari,[12] and on January 21 the Court denied the application for injunction.[13]"

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