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Emission Standards are just another form of soft Tyranny
by TexasPete
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The left has embraced the spectre of "man-made" global warming and has blamed it on us. The answer to their faux problem is that we must all change the way we do everything from the cars we prefer to drive to checking to see how far our food had to travel to market and only buying local.

How does government benefit from these changes they it asked of us but now is demanding ever so louder? It is control that government gets from all this control of our daily lives our movement about the country and our daily habits. The very same thing is acheived thru nationalized healthcare, nationalized banks and a socialist economy.

Many Americans will not initally see this soft tyranny for what it is and will fall for the dictates of the tyrants as "in our best interests". How long will it be before America sees the soft Tyranny of the left? 2010? 2012? or later? ......As for me I have seen this soft tyranny for what it is and will speak against it for as long as it is possible!

Pete

Re: Emission Standards are just another form of soft Tyranny
by lovethebomb
How many times can you cram the absurd phrase "soft tyranny" in your ridiculous rant? Maybe it makes you hard. All free developed nations around the world except this one has embraced the things you are clutching your pearls about. It's called progress. Don't get into a titty twister about it.
such horseshit
by iwasme

why don't all you jerks from texass really do it and leave the usa for good.

texass is a net consumer of other states tax money.

it would be good ridance and don't let the swinging door hit you in the ass.

Reducing man made air pollution raises life expectancy ...
by Time4CommonSense

Studies show that fine-particulate air pollution has been shown to shorten one's life expectancy as well as to lead to associated quality of life medical concerns for those affected as one approaches their demise.

Reducing air pollution in America makes good medical sense.

From; New England Journal of Medicine <link>

ABSTRACT

Background Exposure to fine-particulate air pollution has been associated with increased morbidity and mortality, suggesting that sustained reductions in pollution exposure should result in improved life expectancy. This study directly evaluated the changes in life expectancy associated with differential changes in fine particulate air pollution that occurred in the United States during the 1980s and 1990s.

Methods We compiled data on life expectancy, socioeconomic status, and demographic characteristics for 211 county units in the 51 U.S. metropolitan areas with matching data on fine-particulate air pollution for the late 1970s and early 1980s and the late 1990s and early 2000s. Regression models were used to estimate the association between reductions in pollution and changes in life expectancy, with adjustment for changes in socioeconomic and demographic variables and in proxy indicators for the prevalence of cigarette smoking.

Results A decrease of 10 µg per cubic meter in the concentration of fine particulate matter was associated with an estimated increase in mean (±SE) life expectancy of 0.61 ± 0.20 year (P=0.004). The estimated effect of reduced exposure to pollution on life expectancy was not highly sensitive to adjustment for changes in socioeconomic, demographic, or proxy variables for the prevalence of smoking or to the restriction of observations to relatively large counties. Reductions in air pollution accounted for as much as 15% of the overall increase in life expectancy in the study areas.

Conclusions: A reduction in exposure to ambient fine-particulate air pollution contributed to significant and measurable improvements in life expectancy in the United States.

Re: such horseshit
by TexasPete
iwasme:

why don't all you jerks from texass really do it and leave the usa for good.

texass is a net consumer of other states tax money.

it would be good ridance and don't let the swinging door hit you in the ass.

You really cannot refute anything I have said so you make some absurd ad hominim attack on my state. Many Texans do hold a deep admiration for our forefathers that declared independance from that Mexican tyrant Santa Anna and perhaps (hopefully not) it will become a necessity again for Texas to be an independant nation. However, I still have hope for a free America. Perhaps freedom is lost on people like you but I beleive there are far more Americans it won't be lost on.
Re: Emission Standards are just another form of soft Tyranny
by TomFitz

Lush Limpballs fed him the line. He thinks "soft tyranny" is a sophisticated concept!!!!

You know, they have these made up concepts for everything. Normally they're just code words for their own backwards extremism.

The soft tyrrany thing is a twist on the right wing spin line "the soft tyrrany of low expectations", which is the right's argument against aid to education, and code words for opposing afffirmative action. It's a high minded way of appealing to bigotry.

Limbaugh has another phrase he likes too. He has this thing called the "drive by media".

Noone outside his universe know what that is (neither do I).

more horseshit
by iwasme

just a bunch of rebellious jackasses from tennesse.

cecession. do it. do it quickly. then america would be free.

Re: Reducing man made air pollution raises life expectancy ...
by TexasPete
Time4CommonSense:

Studies show that fine-particulate air pollution has been shown to shorten one's life expectancy as well as to lead to associated quality of life medical concerns for those affected as one approaches their demise.

Reducing air pollution in America makes good medical sense.

From; New England Journal of Medicine <link>

ABSTRACT

Background Exposure to fine-particulate air pollution has been associated with increased morbidity and mortality, suggesting that sustained reductions in pollution exposure should result in improved life expectancy. This study directly evaluated the changes in life expectancy associated with differential changes in fine particulate air pollution that occurred in the United States during the 1980s and 1990s.

Methods We compiled data on life expectancy, socioeconomic status, and demographic characteristics for 211 county units in the 51 U.S. metropolitan areas with matching data on fine-particulate air pollution for the late 1970s and early 1980s and the late 1990s and early 2000s. Regression models were used to estimate the association between reductions in pollution and changes in life expectancy, with adjustment for changes in socioeconomic and demographic variables and in proxy indicators for the prevalence of cigarette smoking.

Results A decrease of 10 µg per cubic meter in the concentration of fine particulate matter was associated with an estimated increase in mean (±SE) life expectancy of 0.61 ± 0.20 year (P=0.004). The estimated effect of reduced exposure to pollution on life expectancy was not highly sensitive to adjustment for changes in socioeconomic, demographic, or proxy variables for the prevalence of smoking or to the restriction of observations to relatively large counties. Reductions in air pollution accounted for as much as 15% of the overall increase in life expectancy in the study areas.

Conclusions: A reduction in exposure to ambient fine-particulate air pollution contributed to significant and measurable improvements in life expectancy in the United States.

Again I assert this is not a decision that government should make. It is a decision of the people/individual. You can drive an electric car if you want but I want somthing that can go for 500 miles without a fillup/recharge and can go again within 0.0 minutes of filling up. Your studies do not quantify how much of that is from vehicle emissions nor does it state where such concerns apply. It does not address the central issue of personal freedon either.
Re: Reducing man made air pollution raises life expectancy ...
by TexasPete
Time4CommonSense:

Studies show that fine-particulate air pollution has been shown to shorten one's life expectancy as well as to lead to associated quality of life medical concerns for those affected as one approaches their demise.

Reducing air pollution in America makes good medical sense.

From; New England Journal of Medicine <link>

ABSTRACT

Background Exposure to fine-particulate air pollution has been associated with increased morbidity and mortality, suggesting that sustained reductions in pollution exposure should result in improved life expectancy. This study directly evaluated the changes in life expectancy associated with differential changes in fine particulate air pollution that occurred in the United States during the 1980s and 1990s.

Methods We compiled data on life expectancy, socioeconomic status, and demographic characteristics for 211 county units in the 51 U.S. metropolitan areas with matching data on fine-particulate air pollution for the late 1970s and early 1980s and the late 1990s and early 2000s. Regression models were used to estimate the association between reductions in pollution and changes in life expectancy, with adjustment for changes in socioeconomic and demographic variables and in proxy indicators for the prevalence of cigarette smoking.

Results A decrease of 10 µg per cubic meter in the concentration of fine particulate matter was associated with an estimated increase in mean (±SE) life expectancy of 0.61 ± 0.20 year (P=0.004). The estimated effect of reduced exposure to pollution on life expectancy was not highly sensitive to adjustment for changes in socioeconomic, demographic, or proxy variables for the prevalence of smoking or to the restriction of observations to relatively large counties. Reductions in air pollution accounted for as much as 15% of the overall increase in life expectancy in the study areas.

Conclusions: A reduction in exposure to ambient fine-particulate air pollution contributed to significant and measurable improvements in life expectancy in the United States.

Again I assert this is not a decision that government should make. It is a decision of the people/individual. You can drive an electric car if you want but I want somthing that can go for 500 miles without a fillup/recharge and can go again within 0.0 minutes of filling up. Your studies do not quantify how much of that is from vehicle emissions nor does it state where such concerns apply. It does not address the central issue of personal freedom either.
(((((((((( SPOT ON ))))))))))
by iwasme

texass pete is just another ditto head.

never, ever had a thought of his owen.

take his statement on a rational basis.

he wants lower gas milage so more of his pay check or welfare payment will go to foreign governments that he hates.

he wants higher air pollution.

roflmao.

ps
by iwasme
only a pond scum sucker votes for his owen posts.
Horseshit.
by Boca

It was horseshit in the streets and the data proves it conclusively.

In 1900, before mass production of automobiles, life expectancy in the US was 47 years. Today it is 77 years.

Conclusion: A combination of reduced in exposure to road apples and increased exposure to fine particulate matter accounted for the near doubling of life expectancy in 20th century America.

Re: Emission Standards are just another form of soft Tyranny
by julieboomer
you regressives are on another losing mission. the country wants what President Obama is delivering. better crank up those teabag parties.
Re: Horseshit.
by TexasPete
Boca:

It was horseshit in the streets and the data proves it conclusively.

In 1900, before mass production of automobiles, life expectancy in the US was 47 years. Today it is 77 years.

Conclusion: A combination of reduced in exposure to road apples and increased exposure to fine particulate matter accounted for the near doubling of life expectancy in 20th century America.

Boca,

You've never mucked a stall so spare me the quaint undocumented claims about health and emissions.

Re: Reducing man made air pollution raises life expectancy ...
by TomFitz

So, you're telling us that the government has no right to regulate industries that affect the public health?

Is that it?

I guess you've taken the catylatic converter off your pickup,and are loudly asserting your right to get 8mpg, while equally loudly yelling about the price of gas.

You morons are really something else!

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