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On abortion and the death penalty.
by spiker
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I bet that if liberals went all in and said they'd give up abortion if conservatives gave up the death penalty that conservatives would cover that offer in a heart beat.

It would leave liberals with their heads spinning.

In other words liberals are death machine monsters orders of magnitude (millions versus hundreds) more in love with monstrosity than conservatives are. Try to add in a war and I'll raise you a holocaust or two, or three, or four....

Re: On abortion and the death penalty.
by jazzguitarman

Having an abortion is the responsible thing to do if one doesn't have the financial means to support a future child. Call it killing if you like, but so what. Abortion is also good for the environment and crime control.

Anyhow Libs don't have to make any trade offs with Cons since Libs have all the power now and the GOP is a dying party. Just today the Dems got to the 60 Senator mark.

Now that fact should leave your head spinning.

Re: On abortion and the death penalty.
by spiker
I think it was 53% to 47% the election results. Guess who has all the guns both within the military and outside of it. So the exercise of power is best left to the reasonable middle ground and that ebbs and flows from party to party.
Re: On abortion and the death penalty.
by eofiss

Guess who has all the guns both within the military and outside of it.

And you guys wonder why no one wants to be a Republican any more. I mean, aside from the 18-22% who still do.

who has all the guns???
by jazzguitarman

I see that you don't believe in democracy or the constitution. Sad.

Now I agree with your reasonable middle ground comment but your gun one, well that indicates you agree with Janet about right wing extermists.

Re: On abortion and the death penalty.
by spiker

Two things.

1) You a$$ume I'm a Republican or care about them in any way.

2) I'm only speaking in the way Napolitano views a large segment of society.

Re: who has all the guns???
by spiker
You know Jazz I've known you for a while and you've never failed to prove not to be the sharpest tool, though often enough do prove to be a tool.
Re: who has all the guns???
by jazzguitarman

Guess who has all the guns both within the military and outside of it.

I was surprised you posted this, very surprised. How did you expect anyone to interpret such a statement?

My guess is that the vast majority would say you are the 'tool' here.

Re: who has all the guns???
by spiker
Is it not a factual statement as you perceive it?
yes, it is a fact
by jazzguitarman

Yes, it is a fact that the Right has more guns and those in the military 'lean right'. No disagreement there.

Thus your 'guns' comment implies that IF the right doesn't like the direction of the country by the ELECTED leaders that they would use GUNS to get their way.

To me the above is a reasonable interpretaion and thus why I make my democracy \ constitution comment. As you know in American we don't use GUNS to gain power but VOTES.

We typically don't attack each other even when we disagree. Like I said I was surprised. If I misinterpreted your comment, than provide clarity.

But to me it look like an extremist type of comment.

Re: yes, it is a fact
by spiker

Yours is a typical fear of guns and those on the right with guns. It is the main reason why liberals are always talking about gun control laws.

If we swing too far left the right will rise either by democratic processes or by violence as has the left done in the past in this countries and others.

It was fun playing with your fears.

Re: yes, it is a fact
by b0nnylass

Yours is a typical fear of guns and those on the right with guns. It is the main reason why liberals are always talking about gun control laws.

I am interested in gun control laws to keep weapons out of the hands of convicted criminals and the mentally unbalanced. Are you telling me those people are invariably...conservatives?? :)

Re: yes, it is a fact
by spiker

I said: It is the main reason

I expected your come back so I didn't say it was the only reason. :-)

But whether you like it or not you are afraid of minorities, if you look at the statistics and your stated fears. Not to say whites are not a problem at all but there is a large difference. How about you work on laws that say minorities can't have guns. Spitzer seems to think he'll get away with it.

Re: yes, it is a fact
by jazzguitarman

Again you assume and misinterpret. I'm NOT for gun control and I don't fear guns bacause I believe the majority of Americans with guns and the military respect the constitution even if the country is NOT going in the directly they like.

Only the nut cases are for armed revolt and these nuts are vastly outnumbers.

For some reason you wanted to come off as a gun crazy and angry nut case. You were very successful.

Re: yes, it is a fact
by spiker
You remain clueless.
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