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Scarce girls more valued?
by Scribblenerd

Hell, yes! Historically, whenever there's been a shortage of women, men treat them with great care - locking them away so nobody else can see them (sometimes rendering them lame so they can't escape)! I hope this doesn't prove to be the case in China (this time!) but I kind of doubt it. Only the law can buy equality for the oppressed.

Being a woman in the US (where we're still not full citizens, since the ERA never passed), it angers me that in most parts of the world, women are still chattel, property of men. This is a legal problem, enforced by culture, and only a legal solution, enforced by honest courts.

Okay, that's off-subject, but back on again! China's economic adventures overseas are partly driven by the need to export men. It is hoped that the hordes of Chinese laborers currently working in South America will find wives there and begin families. Then they can have all the kids they want.

Re: Scarce girls more valued?
by TheyCallMeBruce

Scribblenerd:
Being a woman in the US (where we're still not full citizens, since the ERA never passed),

Nonsense. The 14th Amendment says you're a full citizen, even if it took the law a few decades to understand that. Whole libraries are filled with statutes and case law saying that the 14th Amendment mandates equal legal status and rights for women.

The ERA failed to pass not because anyone didn't want women to become full citizens, but because a lot of people were wary about setting up women as a "protected class" along the lines of oppressed religions or ex-slaves and their descendants and about otherwise opening a can of worms as to what unwritten provisions judges might choose to read into its text. You can argue with the wisdom of those concerns if you like, but don't make them out to be something they aren't.

Re: Scarce girls more valued?
by Logic-101
How about they export an equal number of men and women to forced camps..that would solve the problem...
Re: Scarce girls more valued?
by MariaE
Seems to me like that would defeat the purpose... It's more like you should send far more men to forced labor camps.
Re: Scarce girls more valued?
by sorenlerby

One has to think two possibilities when there are far fewer women than men in any given societies. One possibility is that women will be treated as objects, commodities, they will become target of sexual exploitation, etc. This is the (only) possibility that has been talked about in western liberal media. This is their preferred narrative since it perfectly fits their agenda and worldview - that women are oppressed, are treated as objects, and are discriminated against, and therefore actions for social justice and social engineering is needed.

However there is other possibility, a possibility that has never been discussed hitherto in liberal western media, and that is the possibility that women’s status will actually elevated. If there are fewer young women than young men, it is far more likely that those young men will bend over backwards to grab attention of women and please them, in order to get themselves girlfriends or wives, rather than abducting them or paying money to get the bride, as some media tried to portray. It is much easier and less riskier for those young men to put on some nice jackets, flowers in hands and take women to some fancy restaurants if they want girlfriends or wives than to engage in criminal acts or pay huge amount of money.

Others think that too many men, or overabundance of them in society itself will create a problem, as too much energy, testosterone and frustration of young men are pent up in society. This is nothing but an extremely misandryst view, by people who think that maleness or male virtue is essentially evil and harmful to society and women. Nobody talk about extreme gender imbalance in favour of women at senior age in any country, but if male to female ration exceeds just 1.20, then this is an emergency in need of corrective actions.

Re: Scarce girls more valued?
by dmm
I don't think it is mysandryst to be more afraid of an excess of 20-year-old men than of an excess of 70-year-old women.
Re: Scarce girls more valued?
by Logic-101
The social pendulum swings wide and high and then returns to center. At its apex of left or right, someone is always oppressed..I believe its reached its height and is returning more towards center..It takes some time, but men are finally beginning to wake up, and see the truth...
Re: Scarce girls more valued?
by Pachomius

Now THIS will allow men to do what we've been wanting to do all along- lock up the women and keep em safe! From whom?

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