The famous or infamous NIE told the Bush and company that bin Laden was determined to attack the United States and that planes might be used. Whoa! What did the pea brain and his so-called national security adviser do? You know, the boot shopping in Manhattan former Sec. of State now embraced by Stanford. They dismissed it. Sorry, 9/11 doesn't constitute a mulligan. He didn't prevent a damn thing. Talk about historical revisionism.

Amid all the chatter there were unconformed reports that there was intent of Al Queda to attack SOMEWHERE in this huge country of ours. No time, no location.

Nothing could have been done to prevent 9/11. Though I think its amusing that dolts on the left always use this argument to attack Bush though they consistently mocked and derided reports of subsequent plots which were supposedly foiled by homeland security and indeed the entire apparatus of Homeland Security Admin itself. It is this hypocrisy that is one reason that liberals are such hateful little pukes

Well bill sullivan. I happen to know the FAA was briefed mutliple times on this threat under the Bush administration by the intelligence community. There is no way this threat would not have found its way into the White House daily PDB. There may have been no times nor locations mentioned, but the threat was specific enough to take action.

There is plenty of blame to go around, but the Bush administration held no one accountable - no one lost their job - as should have been the case. But then, I suspect the same would have been said for the Clinton administration previous, had it occurred on their watch - but that the rub - it didn't. It happened on GWB's watch.

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"No Time. No date." You have got to be kidding. What city was a prime target Sherlock? They had already tried to hit the World Trade Centre. Remember that Watson? It's called "connecting the dots." But you and Bush couldn't connect planets, let alone dots. Now, slip back into your coma and leave the thinking to us you Republican dolt. You've done enough damage.

If nothing could have been done why have we introduced airport security after the event? Why have the Europeans been doing it for years?

Ok. Lets say that they figured, well NY was hit before (despite the fact that in 1999 a plot was also foiled to bomb LAX in Los Angeles, but hey, since you seem kind of slow, we'll stick with your premise) What does Bush do? Call out the national guard? Well, send them where, exactly?, shut down ALL AIRPORTS that have planes that can reach NY? (recall that the terrorists boarded planes in Boston, Newark NJ and in DC; if they were to be stopped it would not have been in NY),. You also assume using 20-20 hindsight that they would have known that the WTC was the target as opposed bridges and tunnels (since they FAILED at knocking down the WTC the first time why not try something easier?). Should Bush have shut them down too? Without any preexisting Homeland Security apparatus?

And even if all of this were possible . You are saying now that we should have flagged all arab looking men boarding planes (ooooh, thats PROFILING!!) or mass search everyone near vulnerable sites in NY (OOH, what about their 4th amendment rights???)

You fuckwad liberals mocked Homeland Security for any alerts they sounded after 9/11> Do you know how stupid your argument is? No you dont because you AQRE that stupid!

We couldnt have done it in such a quick period of time given the red tape in place without a true provable emergency- such as a realized attack. What do you do exactly? You dont heve a very sophisticated or realistic view on how govt works

You forgot to mention that a damm Lib Clinton appoint PREVENTED vital info from being shared! I hope that under Obama we dont go back to the walls dividing the FBI, CIA etc.

Bill, most of your arguments are on the right track, in my view, and you're leaving out another factor. Bush does all of the things that he has been criticized for not doing -- he "connects the dots" (whaterverthehell that is supposed to mean), takes steps to thwart 9/11, and as a result 9/11 never happens.

And then the media chimes in about how the Bush administration must have been using racial profiling in the arrest of 19 Saudi men who have committed no crimes, there is no real evidence of a "conspiracy" to crash airplanes into targeted buildings, just some minor intelligence chatter that the wise previous president would have ignored.

He was damned if he did something, and damned if he didn't.

Agreed. There's no pleasing people. Everybody mocks him when he cites the events foiled to justify how they think his policies are overreaching. Then, they cite 9/11 as a failure--even though some of the policies they criticize would have helped to prevent it.

And through all of this, the ignore that Clinton's hummer fiasco prevented him from addressing NIE's on this he'd been receiving for years.

lol!!!!!!!!!Look at all the bush failure appologists that posted after your post.He had no way to know were it would happen"so what ,he was briefed and should have come out and said "everyone at points of entry like docks roads and AIRPORTS!, should keep their eyes open for suspicious people and behaveur."did he take this increadible simple step that might have done something to foil the attempt? no he did not .Then we hear "clinton ignored all the warnings he got "really?according to whom?those with a vested interest with protecting bush?ANd even if that was true ,there was no attack during his term, (the first attack was almost the same month he took officehardly enough tiome to do ant=ything and any warnings supposedly did not reach him untill well after))still why did bush ignore or take the his warnings so lightly?Then we hear "he kept us safe"(,after the intitial attack that killed thousands)if that is ,so what ,(there is no real evidense for this other than the idiotic claim"we haven't been attack since 911(We were not attacked after the first world trade attack but that little fact doesn't register with the 'it was clinton that did not keep us safe" dolts)closing the barn door after the horse runs away and claiming you are on the job is kinda silly . Dumber still is maintaining this is proof that bush is totally blamless and defending the total failure ,in almost every sense,of the bush administrationBut i know those defending the worst fool ever to be president will respond it the predictable and assinine manner they always do .just watch.

Other than that they were young muslim men getting on three separate airplanes ? That sounds awfully like "profiling" to me and, of course, we cant have that, can we?.

9/11 happened on which President's "watch" Sherlock? Bush. You Repubs are all about lecturing others about accepting responsibility, but never, ever accept responsibility for anything. Your hypocritical drivel is so predictable. The Depression. Bush. Iraq. Bush. Abu Gharib. Torture. Bush. Warrentless wiretapping. Bush. Considering getting rid of the First and Fourth Amendments secretly. Bush. Afghanistan. Bush. Bush. Bush. Now we liberals have to clean up the mess you left this country in, financially, diplomatically, socially, morally, internationally. All your snide rhetoric cannot erase these unassailable facts. Why don't you "man up" and accept some measure of responsibility for any of it. Jeez, Clinton is so old.

bill sullivan: "Nothing could have been done to prevent 9/11."

That sums it up nicely. Bill need never say another word on the subject. His views and attitude are on clear display with those 8 words.

"Nothing could be done." As I wrote, unrepentant Republican apologists don't accept responsibility for anything. Then why have intelligence services if nothing could be done? When 9/11 happened we heard the refrain: 'Oh well, you know, it's like finding a needle in a haystack.' In fact, Coffer Black, a former CIA bigwig, actually told a congressional committee that espionage work is like being a soccer goalie - you can't stop 'em all. Of course, Mr. Black wasn't fired for using that odious analogy. Then, of course, you types bellow that we need to give these espionage services unlimited powers and money to do their jobs. But if there is no expectation that they can stop 21 terrorists operating in the United States using their real names to plot to attack this nation's entreprenuerial, military, political heart, then why the fuck bother.