low earth orbit has become too crowded.

something has to be done... what a mess

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low earth orbit has become too crowded.

something has to be done... what a mess

And the treaty would do what?

As for something being done do you have any ideas?

Space is being cluttered just as we've trashed the oceans <link> I cite the Pacific Gyre as an example.

The problem is of course that the space debris is traveling in the miles per second where the ocean debris is travailing at a snails pace. A small item about the size of a grain of rice will hit you like a rifle bullet at 12-15 miles a second with deadly results.

Eventually gravity will return the stuff to earth where all but the largest will burn up on re-entry but in the interim we keep putting stuff up there and things like tool bags, parts, trash and even paint chips continue to be added to the mix and endanger anything we put into orbit.

It's only a matter of time before a spacer is killed up there by a high speed chunk of space trash.

Bottom line there is no way at this time to fix it or clean it up, the only thing we can do is make every attempt to not dump stuff in space.

You mean you actually believe that we've got satellites up there? That's exactly what they want you to believe. But it's all a lie. I read it on the internets, so it's irrefutable.

... and answered it correctly...

And the treaty would do what?

the only thing we can do is make every attempt to not dump stuff in space.

is where all the space debris has become a deadly asteroid field rotating in every direction. The space station is actually below it all, closer in to the earth, there are satellites revolving in the same range as the mess and there are high orbit satellites that are out beyond the Van Allen belts.

you can't trust everything you read on the internet ;)

I like it when I argue with myself and win.

You can tell a Dutchman, you just can't tell him much.

Time to create an international space treaty?

Why? We've already got one (hehe, I told him we've already got one!)

In fact, we've got 14, plus a whole mess of UN resolutions. I read about 'em on the Internets.

INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS

The Outer Space Treaty

The Rescue and Return Agreement

The Liability Convention

The Registration Convention

The Moon Treaty

Agreement Relating To The International Telecommunications Satellite Organization

Convention on the International Maritime Satellite Organization

Nuclear Test Ban Treaty

The ABM Treaty

Declaration of Legal Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space

Principles Governing Direct Television Broadcasting

Principles Relating to Remote Sensing

Principles Relevant to the Use of Nuclear Power Sources in Outer Space

Declaration on International Cooperation in Outer Space

General Assembly Resolutions

1472 (XIV). International co-operation in the peaceful uses of outer space

1721 (XVI). International co-operation in the peaceful uses of outer space

33/16. International co-operation in the peaceful uses of outer space

37/83. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

37/89. International co-operation in the peaceful uses of outer space

37/90. 2nd UN Conference on the Exploration and Peaceful Uses of Outer Space

38/70. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

39/59. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

39/96. International co-operation in the peaceful uses of outer space

40/87. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

41/53. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

41/65. Principles relating to the remote sensing of the Earth from space

42/33. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

42/68. International co-operation in the peaceful uses of outer space

43/56. International co-operation in the peaceful uses of outer space

43/70. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

44/46. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

44/112. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

45/55. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

45/72. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

46/33. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

46/45. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

47/51. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

47/67. International cooperation in the peaceful uses of outer space

48/39. International cooperation in the peaceful uses of outer space

48/74. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

49/33. Enlargement of the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space

49/34. International cooperation in the peaceful uses of outer space, including the question of the review of the Agreement Governing the Activities of States on the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies

50/27. International cooperation in the peaceful uses of outer space

51/44. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

52/37. Prevention of an arms race in outer space

52/56. International cooperation in the peaceful uses of outer space

53/45. International cooperation in the peaceful uses of outer space

54/53. Prevention of an Arms Race in Outer Space

54/67. International cooperation in the peaceful uses of outer space

54/68. Third United Nations Conference on the Exploration and Peaceful Uses of Outer Space

55/32. Prevention of an Arms Race in Outer Space

55/122. International Cooperation in the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space

56/23. Prevention of an Arms Race in Outer Space

57/57. Prevention of an Arms Race in Outer Space

57/116. International Cooperation in the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space

58/36. Prevention of an Arms Race in Outer Space

58/89. International Cooperation in the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space

58/90. Review of the Implementation of the recommendations of the Third United Nations Conference on the Exploration and Peaceful Uses of Outer Space

Bilateral Space Station Agreements

Memorandum Of Understanding Between The National Aeronautics And Space Administration Of The United States Of America And The Canadian Space Agency Concerning Cooperation On The Civil International Space Station

Memorandum Of Understanding Between The National Aeronautics And Space Administration Of The United States Of America And The Government of Japan Concerning Cooperation On The Civil International Space Station

Memorandum Of Understanding Between The National Aeronautics And Space Administration Of The United States Of America And The European Space Agency Concerning Cooperation On The Civil International Space Station

Memorandum Of Understanding Between The National Aeronautics And Space Administration Of The United States Of America And The Russian Space Agency Concerning Cooperation On The Civil International Space Station

Principles Regarding Processes and Criteria for Selection, Assignment, Training and Certification of ISS (Expedition and Visiting) Crewmembers

It is Time to create an international space treaty that will actually save low earth orbit from becoming a bigger trash dump than it already is....

becuzzzzzzz...

whatever is on the books is not working.