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Conservative reaction will tell everything.
by Philadelphia Steve
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Conservative reaction to the death of Mr. Felt will be a true test of their loyalty. Regardless of his reasons, Mark Felt revealed crimes being committed by the Nixon Administration against the Constitution and laws of the United States.

Those Conservatives who speak of him in terms of “treason” will reveal that their first allegiance is to the Republican Party (and Richard Nixon), with their second allegiance to the United States and its Constitution.

We already know that Loyal Bushies put their first allegiance to George W. Bush, with the country a distant second, if the United States of America fits in the mix at all.

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"I took an oath the president, and I take that oath very seriously," Sara Taylor said in answer to a question early in the hearing."

And right after a break, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) asked her if she was sure about that. "Did you mean, perhaps, you took an oath to the Constitution?" Leahy asked. It was a telling exchange.

My prediction is that not one single Conservative will display a first allegiance to the United States. Instead, like the Soviet Union of old, Conservatives owe their first allegiance to The Party, with the Constitution and Country not in the mix at all.

Conservative reaction will be telling.

Re: Conservative reaction will tell everything.
by Serai

Those Conservatives who speak of him in terms of “treason” will reveal that their first allegiance is to the Republican Party (and Richard Nixon), with their second allegiance to the United States and its Constitution.

I would amend "second" to "no". By and large, the Republican Party as we know it today has proven time and again that they have no respect or interest in the Constitution.

Get off your high horse.
by aeschylus

Are you a Democrat who defended President Clinton? Then STFU. I'm not comparing Clinton's transgressions with Nixon's, but are you suggesting that Nixon is the lowest the bar should be set, impeachment-wise?

The Left loved to bray that Clinton's impeachment was "just about sex" (it wasn't -- perjury and obstruction of justice are a tad more serious), but the irony is that the sex alone should have been enough to remove him from office. Outside of the porn industry, where is sex at the workplace not a fireable offense? (And the West Wing is his workplace -- he lives in the Residence). Not at Kinko's, not at Bed Bath & Beyond, not at General Mills, nor anywhere else.

But, hey: let's hold the President to a lower standard.

Re: Get off your high horse.
by Clyde Turbo
Yeah getting a BJ during working hours is a lot worse than suspending habeas corpus, authorizing illegal wiretaps, starting a pre-emptive war, rendition kidnapping flights, bankrupting the nation and God only know what else.
I'm not arguing with you, Clyde...
by aeschylus

...but just because Clinton did not do the worst thing imaginable doesn't mean that he didn't do anything wrong at all. The man deserved impeachment and should have been removed from office.

Why the Democrats didn't go after Bush, I don't know.

Re: I'm not arguing with you, Clyde...
by timeforsanity
He did not 'deserve' impeachment -- he stumbled into a perjury trap and probably would not have been convicted in a court if he were a private citizen. But hey, when considering the extraordinary damage to the nation and the rule of law committed by Bush and his associates we must NEVER FORGET THAT IT PALES IN COMPARISON TO THE EVIL CLINTON GETTING SOME SEX AT THE WORKPLACE!
"Stumbled into a perjury trap"?
by aeschylus

Where I come from we call that "lying because he didn't think he would get caught."

Again, I'm not comparing Clinton to Nixon or G.W. Bush or anything else. His crimes don't compare. But what he did was bad and he should have been removed. While I don't claim that my moral fiber is such that I would never have sex in the workplace, I'd have a hard time arguing against getting fired for it. Then there's the perjury and obstruction of justice stuff. I ask again: what should be the smallest offense to trigger impeachment? Is it a kind of recognizing pornography case-by-case deal?

Again, I don't know why Congress isn't going after G.W. Bush.

Re: Conservative reaction will tell everything.
by trapdoor

I'm a conservative. Mark Felt was a hero. Nixon was a crook.

The trouble is that you're conflating "Republican" and "conservative" and they are not necessarily the same thing. Nixon called for a nationwide, government run health car plan -- how conservative is that?

"Conservative" does not mean blind or stupid. Nixon's violations of the law are obvious and extreme. Clinton's violations of the law are also obvious, and somewhat less extreme (but no less violations). Both should have been impeached and convicted.

Hmm- Nixon was a liberal, you know
by blueskies
And both Republican and Democratic parties have been to the right of Nixon the last 34 years.
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