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by Sycamancy

Rosenbaum hammers on Fish for assumedly acting like former President Bush did when he walked into a supermarket and was amazed by the scanning machines at the checkout counters. In fact, that's the whole overly-repetitive critique Rosenbaum offers: can you believe this so-called "scholar" has never been in a Starbucks before?

But I don't think that's what Fish was doing. Maybe I'm reading this too much in Fish's credit, but I think he was taking a perspective that is similar to what many comedic writers like Dave Barry employ: express wonder at something that is nowadays ubiquitous. His point is that our service economy is becoming less service-oriented, and he's doing it in a fashion that reminds us that it didn't always used to be this way. Thus, it doesn't have to be this way. If we're sick of the Starbucks method, go somewhere else. Many people may wind up patronizing Starbucks because they feel there just isn't a better alternative.

However, I'll point out that Starbucks didn't get so popular by once being service-oriented and then suddenly changing its style after we were hooked on its caffeine-laden beverages. While some people may prefer old-time homey service, the vast majority of the public likes being able to order exactly what it wants, no matter how au lait-crazy it sounds, and they'll wait in line for it and pay five bucks for the privilege. And perhaps that is the real story here, that Fish seems unwilling to acknowledge that the Starbucks world is exactly what everyone else around him wants.

expressing wonder at the ubiquitous
by baltimore aureole
  • $5 for a cup of coffee
  • $6 for a box of popcorn at the movies (actual cost of unpopped corn - about 2 cents)
  • $9 for a martini
  • $15 for a bottle of sparkling water at your restaurant table
  • $65 for a wash, cut and dry
  • $299 for an MP3 player the size of a book of matches
  • $599 for a cell phone
  • $875 for a pair of womens shoes (okay,they're manolo's, but still . . . )
  • the $2,000 a day hospital room, before medical procedures, medicines, supplies
  • the $22,000 volkswagen beetle (1963 cost - $1,800)
  • social security tax - 15% (7.5% each on employee as well as employer) - and STILL the system is going broke

on the other hand, bargains about for those who refuse to drink the kool ade . . .

  • dollar menu at burger king
  • $2.99 for a 12 pack of coke at the supermarket (on sale)
  • payless shoes ($9.99 and up, many at 2 pair for 1 prices)
  • walkman style fm radio - 9.99 and up, with headphones
  • huyndai sonata with 10 year warranty - $15,499
Re: expressing wonder at the ubiquitous
by pdxredhead

Baltimore Aureole:

Um, OK, clearly you are focusing narrowly on the price aspect of Starbucks, and/or trying to make a counterpoint about elitism. Well, not everyone who doesn't want to live the Wal*Mart lifestyle "dr(a)nk the kool ade". At least Starbucks gives ALL of their employees (even the part-timers) benefits like medical insurance; I'd rather support them with my dollars. This is a free country, so you're free to continue patronising businesses that treat their employees like crap, squeeze their suppliers for the lowest price until all the manufacturing jobs are sent overseas, etc.

Or did I miss your point?

Re: expressing wonder at the ubiquitous
by omoide

Well in the case of the Burger King menu, IMO, you get what you pay for.

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