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If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by techresmgt

If this Obama birth certificate issue is so 'crazy' and the work of conspiratorialists, why then has Obama filed no less than (9) (count 'em) legal challenges to ONE simple request? He has made this an issue and no one else is to blame. Seems we are trading one bunch of law bending politicians for another. Democrats' hypocrisy and blatant double standard on this issue is astounding; albeit predicatable. Simple solution, Obama; produce a live, credible, authentic, certified birth certificate showing beyond a shadow of a doubt you were born where you claim. Otherwise, take your lumps like a man.

Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by JimSanDiego
techresmgt:

If this Obama birth certificate issue is so 'crazy' and the work of conspiratorialists, why then has Obama filed no less than (9) (count 'em) legal challenges to ONE simple request? He has made this an issue and no one else is to blame. Seems we are trading one bunch of law bending politicians for another. Democrats' hypocrisy and blatant double standard on this issue is astounding; albeit predicatable. Simple solution, Obama; produce a live, credible, authentic, certified birth certificate showing beyond a shadow of a doubt you were born where you claim. Otherwise, take your lumps like a man.

Nine (count 'em) guys who have showered with Obama after basketball games have reported seeing the sign of Satan, 666, on his rear end. Why then has Obama refused to answer no less than 9 times this one simple question, "Barak, is 666 imprinted on your behind?" By not answering he has made this an issue and no one else is to blame. Simple solution, Obama, lower your pants and prove there is no 666 on your behind. Otherwise, take your lumps like a man.
Re: If It's not So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by middleview

Is there no evidence of Ann Dunham traveling to another country in 1961. There would be records of her flight, her passport, her reentry with a child.

What is the problem with the Certificate of Live Birth that was examined by factcheck.org? Why would anyone suspect that it is a forgery, since several newspapers, as well as factcheck....and the State Of Hawaii, have said that it is genuine?

I can find no evidence of Obama filing any legal challenges. Where did you dig that up?

Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by Greatbear452
Obama hasn't filed any challenges. He's had to respond to numerous challenges to his citizenship. He went to the State Department of Health and posted a copy of his official COLB as issued by the Hawaii DOH on the web. Something no other candidate has ever had to do. The fact that he hasn't wasted too much time addressing a bunch of nutbars and tinfoil hatters who wouldn't be convinced even if Doc Brown gave them a ride in his DeLorean so that they could witness Obama's birth first hand isn't proof.
Fact Check
by Trebuchet

Obama has not filed a single challenge. He has responded to challenges.

Get your story straight.

Obama has provided evidence of a Birth Certificate and the Hawiian Department Of Health has confirmed that it is authentic.

Get your story straight.

Obama also has a US Passport that he used to visit Europe and the Middle East this summer (remember those millions of people who came to see him speak? Yeah, me too!) and in order to apply for a passport you have to prove your citizenship.

HmmmmKay? Now what was your other question?

Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by cobia hunter
Barry is the cause for this uproar. Aside from refusing to provide his valid, authentic birth certificate detailing the name of the hospital where he was born and the name of the doctor who delivered him, the passport he used to travel back and forth from Pakistan when he was in college is also being called into question. And to further complicate matters, Barry's refusal to release his medical records and college transcripts are also adding fuel to the fire. His medical records will indicate where he was born, and his college transcriptss will indicate if he received foreign tuition aid. If Barry wants this to go away, all he has to do is produce the documents. Until he does, the little punk cannot whine about being picked on. If it turns out that he is not a natural born citizen after the is inaugurated, he could quite possibly be jailed, and rightfully so. He needs to clear this up as soon as possible.
Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by Adrasteia

I'll tell you what Cobia. You post your personal information for the world to see and then President Elect Obama will post his.

He doesn't have to post that stuff. You know why? Because Hawaii said he was born there. End of story...except for you people suffering from Barry Derangement Syndrome.

Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by Greatbear452

That "little punk" is the president-elect of the United States of America. Get used to it.

I don't know how many times it needs to be said, but Obama has released his valid birth certificate and the government of Hawaii has confirmed that he was there. There is no controversy left. Only the ravings of the lunatic fringe.

As for his college transcripts: He's not required to release his college transcripts. There is no law that says he has to. Anything about him receiving foreign financial aide is pure speculation on your part as you have no proof of that whatsoever.

As for his medical records: He released those months ago:

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And that's more than either McCain or Palin did.

You keep spinning these fantasies and all you do is make yourself look foolish.

Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by cobia hunter
In case you weren't aware, the State of Hawaii issued thoudands of birth certificates to foreigners who weren't born there so that they could gain US citizenship, and the fake certificate that Obama gave to the Daily Kos to put up online is a copy of one of those. It is not a certified birth certificate. This is going to hound Barry until he produces his authentic birth certificate. And I suppose you knew that Barry is also refusing to name the nationality of the passport he was using to travel back and forth to Pakistan with. There are already steps in place to legally challenge every single piece of legislation and treaty that Barry enacts until his natural born citizenship is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. An authentic birth certificate costs around 12 bucks. Certainly Barry can afford this.
Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by cobia hunter
A summary from a doctor is not medical records.
Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by cobia hunter
I'm a natural born citizen of the United States and I have an authentic birth certificate detailing the name of the hospital and the doctor. Apparently, Barry does not.
Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by MandiMija

Cobia-

For starters, the man you are referring to is President Elect Barack Obama. Please, for the basic respect accorded anyone, do not refer to him by a family nickname and assume a familiar relationship with someone whom you not only do not know, but apparently cannot stand. I'd be furious if someone I had never met and who obviously regarded me with this much contempt used the nickname my family has for me in public. Bad move.

Second: The birth certificate is real. Get over it. A copy is just as legit as a vault copy, especially when these records have been verified by the State of Hawai'i. If any of these people are found lying, they're in for some serious time. You really think they'd risk something like that over an election result?

Third: He didn't refuse to name the nationality of the passport that he used to travel back and forth to Pakistan with as a twenty-year-old. Get your story straight.

Fourth: Do you realize that you're demanding the invasion of someone's privacy, which is protected by Supreme Court decisions? My parents can't even access my college transcripts without my express, written permission, nor can my husband. The only ones who have ever seen those are the grad schools I applied to. My husband hasn't even seen a copy of my birth certificate (It's just never come up). Yet you're asking for Barack Obama to release all of this information because you say so?

Fine if you don't like that Obama was elected. But show some common decency.

Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by MandiMija

Last I checked, the name of the doctor who delivered me isn't on the copy of my birth certificate either. Do I know his name? Yes, only because my mother told me later. The specific hospital also isn't listed, just the city. However, the presence (or lack thereof) of those names on a certificate doesn't decide its validity.

By the way, I used that certificate to get both my passport and a copy of my Social Security Card. It was never challenged.

Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by cobia hunter

And another wrinkle for poor Barry is that at the time of his birth, his father was a Kenyan national thus meaning he was subject to the laws of the United Kingdom who held Kenya as a colony until they gained their independence in 1963. At the time of his birth, this made Barry a British citizen and he admitted that he held dual citizenship. The problem is, dual citizenship does not constitute natural born citizenship status as per the Constitution.

Somewehere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Re: If It's So 'Crazy'; Why Then?
by cobia hunter
Barry will be afforded the very same respect and courtesy by 58 million Americans that you liberal Democrats afforded president Bush - absolutely none. Your plea for koombaya is not only hypocritical, but ridiculous.
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