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Don't believe the polls
by Kazillions

Zogby just placed McCain in the lead. Bullshit. At long last, these people have no shame.

They are playing a freakin' game.

McCain, as I have said for weeks now, has already been in the lead. But Zogby and all the other pollsters are trying to whipsaw you. In these last few days they want to give conservatives and Republicans just enough hope so that they can snatch it back, and dishearten you enough so that a percentage doesn't even show up to vote. They are so sad and so predictable.

McCain is going to win on Tuesday, but the leftists and those who are dependent upon them for their very careers are going to go down fighting until the last second.

Zogby says McCain mysteriously leaped into the lead today. This means he's up by fucking 10. Come tomorrow, or if they have real balls, the latest, Monday, Obama will be up by 3 to 5, and Zogby will claim it's the same damned statistical formula they've been pursuing.

And then Tuesday it will be "too close to call."

Translation: McCain is going to whip Obama's ass and the pollsters are going to shrug and say, "Hey, on election day at least we were close! So trust us next time and buy our services again."

McCain has not been behind for weeks, he's been ahead. The pollsters drink their mother's milk from their position of power of manipulating the spirit of voters ... and they are beholden to where their money comes from ... the vast majority of which is the main stream media, which is as far to the Left as it gets. Follow the money. Liberals used to believe in that basic concept of investigative journalism. Oh, not any more.

Don't trust the polls. Just go vote. McCain's going to not only win, but we won't even have to stay up late on Nov 4th to learn he's our next Pres.

And this time? Guess what. Among many other necessary changes, once again Americans will learn that we are at our best when we make up our own minds.

So
by pissenlit

Since you are in possession of some undisclosed info on the subject that no one else has, why not make a tidy profit? C'mon, be a man. You know you wanna. Bet your house, for all I care.

Just stop boring us all to death with this drivel.

Re: So
by Jimminyc
Pollster John Zogby: "Is McCain making a move? The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama today, 48% to 47%. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all. "Obama's lead among women declined, and it looks like it is occurring because McCain is solidifying the support of conservative women, which is something we saw last time McCain picked up in the polls. If McCain has a good day tomorrow, we will eliminate Obama's good day three days ago, and we could really see some tightening in this rolling average. But for now, hold on."
Re: Don't believe the polls
by JackDallas

It sure seems like there is some nefarious shit going on. Dems always poll high because the polls are over-weighted with Democrats being questioned. But the primary organizations like Zogby may have been playing a game all along. The impression has been made that Obama cannot lose. That will most likely keep some Obama voters (especially the pimples) from standing in line for 3 hours on Tuesday.

There is a second possibility. The 10% undecided could be breaking for McCain due to the strong final push being presented by McPalin. I have said all along that at the end, that a majority of the American people will come to their senses and reject the nonsense of Barach Obama.

It will be McCain/Palin on election day.

Jack

You can twist perceptions
by Keifus

Reality won't budge
You can raise objections
I will be the judge.

Actually, I kind of agree with you on this one Kazzie, in spirit, and to the extent I can avoid your jerking knee. As better bloggers than me have written, it's the media's given duty, like good bookies, to play up the losers. It's also in their interest to cover their asses if they end up wrong.

But still, the polls are what they are, and if they're dodgy evidence, they're also the only evidence we got right now. The way you weight it in your candidate's favor is dishonest, even if it's not so egregious as your usual suite of rhetorical sins.

Here's a couple tips from the John Kerry defeat, since you're obviously young: If you want to start picking on polling, it's de riguer to hypothesize about the built-in biases, because then you don't look like such a dope when you throw out a blanket disavowal of statistical sampling techniques. Who's willing to talk to a pollster after all? Sad lonely people and opinionated cranks. Also, if/when you lose, it's accepted practice to call American voters a bunch of morons. Has the advantage of being accurate, though not for the reasons you'll inevitably site.

Re: If you're right...
by ChicagoEngineer

then why did McCain bail out of Michigan? Why is the GOP spending money in Montana?

Are you suggesting that McCain's internal polling also has a liberal bias?

I agree
by ducadmo
There's still a lot of volatility left in three days and John McCain has almost as good a chance to pull off a win in Pennsylvania as Obama does in Arizona.
Don't believe Kazillions.
by Archaeopteryx

Zogby didn't place McCain in the lead. He said McCain had one better day of polling. If you're going to trumpet a pollster (one of the most incompetent ones, by the way), at least read their methodology. Zogby still has McCain down by 5. And Zogby's number has a Republican bias (based apparently on methodology, not on philosophy). Poll guru Nate Silver describes the quality of the Zogby tracking poll as "dubious." If you look at all of yesterday's tracking polls, Obama seems to be gaining ground.

http://www.zogby.com/main.htm

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Re: Don't believe the polls
by Schmutzie

I agree with Todd.

McCain is way out in front.

McCain is the clear front runner.

That's why it's important for all Obama supporters to get out there and vote.

At least we can make this thing a horserace, even if we don't stand a chance.

Will you never learn, Arch? "Facts Are Stupid Things"
by tartuffe

to wingnuts like toddzillions. Meanwhile, reality has a well-known liberal bias.

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