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It is a representative democracy - even in Oklahoma
by Ed_of_La_Mancha
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On so-called partial birth abortion, I think Bazelon makes a mistake in saying the the court is substituting its judgement for the woman and her doctor. They did not write any law on the matter, but Congress did. I don't think this is an entirely innocent mistake either, as I feel pretty certain that she prefers to think that if such "mistaken" policies exist then it becomes the responsibility of judges to overturn them. If she doesn't think the law is any good, then elect different legislators to repeal or modify it. Likewise she complains about the paternalism of the Oklahoma law. Evidently, that's the way that Oklahoma voters have liked it. Move to Oklahoma and get politically active if you think this is such a bad thing. Seriously, move to Oklahoma. When is the van scheduled to get your stuff?
Re: It is a representative democracy - even in Oklahoma
by yesok

Can a baby killer be a good mom? I wonder if it is possible for a person that is so self centered that they can kill the baby in their womb and then be a good loving mom later. I dont kow if that is possible and have been wondering.

Re: It is a representative democracy - even in Oklahoma
by kurtzs

Whatever state or jurisdiction one lives in, the claim by legislative law that it has absolute ethical status over a persons bodily health is conflating religion with medicine. That churches have been involved in governmental policies for centuries proves only one thin: that humans are in the main insecure and uncomfortable with uncertainty - which is the only irrefutable truth about infinite reality.

Ascribing a non-material element such as a soul to a mammal (yes, we are!) is purely speculative. Nature will ultimately cull us as we are now in Plague Phase. See a chart of human population for the past 200 years. Overlay the last 200 against the NASDAQ. Crash is inevitable.

Re: It is a representative democracy - even in Oklahoma
by Valerie Etter
  • Wow! What an indictment of all persons who have chosen an abortion in their history. By labeling people as "baby killers" you are choosing a way to dehumanize more human beings who feel they are in positions that appear dire to them at a certain difficult time in their lives. Of course, women who have had abortions can become good moms because they are far beyond their past actions - good, bad or indifferent. You are insulting many current good moms as we write. What simplistic thinking, or 'wondering', as you refer to it. I would advise against continuing to wonder in that direction. For it appears to dehumanize you.
Re: It is a representative democracy - even in Oklahoma
by antares888

I would like to ask all who "believe" a fetus (formed at conception) is equal to a live, after birth person, a question:


You have two buildings, one containing a thousand "fetuses", and the other containing one "three" (or any other) month old baby. Both buildings are on fire. You can ONLY save one building. Which building/person(s) would you save?


How strong is your "belief"? And that is what it is -- a "belief", not a "fact". I have no problem with you "believing" whatever you want to, but, I would ask you to not try to tell ME what to "believe", or FORCE me to believe the same as you do.


For the record, no one is "pro-abortion", but a lot of people are "pro-choice". We can make up our own mind how to "believe". I respect your right to "believe" whatever you want to -- please give me the same right.
Re: It is a representative democracy - even in Oklahoma
by oklahoman12345
For all of the comments posted on this article, I was disappointed to find NOT ONE comment mentioning the father, even though it took two people to create a pregnancy... It *ISN'T* just a woman's choice, but the responsibility of BOTH people involved, to raise a child (or decide to have one).

On that note, let me ask this question: Why is it ok for a woman to have an abortion if the father wants to keep the child, but the father must bear responsibility if a woman bears a child he does not want?? If abortion is a 'women's issue', then surely raising a child is the responsibility of that woman??

I look forward to your thoughts...
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