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Necessary Evil
by Soccerfreak

With nearly breathtaking rapidity, we are becoming a nation that simply shrugs off the concept of individual rights,

I am not familiar with the laws used to issue a temporary restraining order against this McClellan creep, but I would be surprised if the law was not bent, twisted, burnt, and otherwise fouled in order to make this order a reality.

I am not surprised that many of us, perhaps most of us, accept this, in this particular case, as a necessary evil, nor that others of us do not consider this an evil at all. We are, after all, protecting our children, are we not?

In the final analysis, the issue here is the same one we confront when people write about killing others on their blogs or in term papers for English professors, when preachers post their beliefs about the imminent coming of the Apocalypse and what followers need to do to prepare: when does this move from personal expression to a danger to the community?

It is, in fact, typically presented as an argument between practicality and idealism.

What is legislated and enforced on behalf of common sense is often the product of corrupt or irrational idealism, more often the bastard child of a compulsion to expediency in the name of righteousness.

As always, the individual loses. As always, the majority of individuals revel in the loss, for a bit more sense of security, for one more night of dreamless sleep.

Re: Necessary Evil
by lucabrasi

The practicality, in this case, is taking out this "McClellan creep."

He has submitted to newspaper feature articles about himself, and to photographs of his face, and he seems to revel in the attention given to the fact that he prints photographs of children (clothed) on his website and specifies nice parks to find them and has described children he has spied upon. One mother opined that one child he described, given the description of the child, the park where he described seeing the child, and the time and place, had to be hers. His U.S. server dropped his website, but he is pursuing a "Dutch replacement."

He is another of our "nutcase fringe" element, often composed of people like that stalker who kept breaking into Letterman's house without societal solution. Except that this guy's thing is about children. If he hasn't molested any children himself (and a "no arrest" record doesn't guarantee that), he seems more than willing to incite others to do so.

The process of eliminating him from society -- as he so clearly and richly desires -- has begun. Helping him would be best, but he has no interest in that. He may desire arrest because, given those photographs of his face and his revealed L.A. location, you can bet somebody of a less-than-legal type will likely have him killed soon.

Re: Necessary Evil
by FBH
One of our societal struggles is with the fact that we all have multiple choices, but not multiple consequences resulting from those same choices. When this man chose his path, the real truth is as you say. He will ultimately be isolated entirely and permanently from our society. We can all get together and feel sad and decry the limitations placed on his Constitutional rights and so forth, but in the end the result is predetermined...by him.
UN-Necessary Evil
by nomogmos

NO NO NO NO NO!

interesting that you say the legal system may have trampled somebody's rights rushing to a conclusion here.

regardless of the temptation, it is far more DANGEROUS to the public for the legal system to make ANY mistakes in process

that if say, Al Bundy should walk out free because there was a small (say three minutes) violation in the matter of Habeous Corpus [for example]

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Re: Necessary Evil
by nomogmos

than, i should say, mebbe he should be deported to a more comfortable jurisdiction., but

in the past i seen all that said about parties who actually didnt know a thing about what was going on

even though the 'evidence' presented was very convincing - othh, this makes it very much more important in such cases to be ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE all the legal system's work has been correct in form.

theres lota serial killers out there who revel in their 'power to frame' the innocent

Re: Necessary Evil
by nomogmos

blohard;

yup, we kilt 'im.

yeknerf;

and then proved 'im innocent?

blohard;

absolutely. the evidence was rock solid.

yeknerf;

so where's th killer?

blohard;

who? th killa? 'ee got away.

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