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Obama has been lieing Since Day One
by Therese in NV

Barack Obama repeatedly has stated that he wasn't associated with ACORN; the orginzation currently under Federal investigation for Voter Registration Fraud in, what, 15 state across the Country. What a pack of Lies! Barack Obama might get fools to believe that lie, except for the fact that he was ACORN's legal counsel in a court action against them regarding Voter Registration Fraud a couple of years ago. How does Senator Barack, Big Fat Liar, Obama explain that one! Barack Obama and Acorn have been working hand in hand, trying to manipulate this election and now the truths are coming out. ACORN has been registering deceased voters, underage voters and voters from different states in Swing States as Democratic Voters for Barack Obama.

Additionally, the Obama Campaign is under investigation for excessive undisclosed major campaign contributions. Barack Obama has people like Warren Buffet, (the richest man in America constantly contributing) and has Muslim ties that have been verified. Has anyone stopped to ask where this never ending supply of Hundreds of Millions of Dollars are coming from. You Should! Obviously, the agenda Barack Obama has for the White House isn't "Change to Believe In" for the American people. Do you really think Hundreds of Millions of Dollars from undisclosed sources are being contributed and nothing is expected in return? Get Real! Barack Obama has spent over 461 Million Dollars and the costs are still going up. These amounts greatly supersede limits set by the National Election Committee.

And the media is just as bad. The media has a responsibility to report these events; yet, they have been starkingly quiet about any of these events. It is not hard to see who is buying the Media loyalty.

Finally, Barack Obama stated that he wasn't affiliated with Ayers, the former muslim activist, and paid for his own Harvard Education with parttime jobs and student loans. However, there are documented interviews showing that Ayers was representing foreign interests and backing Barack Obama's education. To this day, Ayers and Obama have been on the same committees and they are neighbors living in the same neighborhood.

You wonder why everyone is flaming angry. Why shouldn't we be. Barack Obama has been underhanded, deceitful in his campaign dealings and not forthcoming about his "ACORN" and Muslim Activists affiliations.

Re: Obama has been lieing Since Day One
by SheldahlGal
You lose credibility when you misspell the title of your posts.
Re: Obama has been lieing Since Day One
by TrueDem

But you can't be fooled; your illiteracy and racism are like an armor shell. Jesus, my seven year old could spell "lying" when she was five, you fucking cretin. Go cook some more crystal meth in your kitchen while watching Fox News.

Really?
by degsme

Hmm so because Obama defended ACORN 13 years ago that means he necessarily is associated with them now?

UHUH. By that reasoning, McCain is still trying to get Charles Keating off the hook. But about ACORN itself.

ACORN has been registering deceased voters, underage voters and voters from different states in Swing States as Democratic Voters for Barack Obama.

Really? Says who? What evidence do you have of this? yeah I didn't think you had any. so under biblical admonition, making that claim is Bearing False Witness. A violation of one of the 10 Commandments. And you DO KNOW what penalty the Bible demands for that right?

the Obama Campaign is under investigation for excessive undisclosed major campaign contributions.

Under investigation by whom? NewsMax - a partisan GOP website? again you are bearing false witness.

Barack Obama has people like Warren Buffet (the richest man in America constantly contributing)

You do realize that by writing that, you are violating the law. You are libelling Buffet since what you are saying about Buffet simply isn't true. And that sort of lying is actually illegal.

and has Muslim ties that have been verified.

So are you saying that Muslims are prohibited from holding office in the USA? Or are you saying that ALL MUSLIMS cannot be trusted? Or are you just a bigot?

Has anyone stopped to ask where this never ending supply of Hundreds of Millions of Dollars are coming from?

Actually yeah they have. If you want you can go look it up yourself either in the hard to read government database or at the more user friendly OpenSecrets site. But I can tell you pretty clearly where it is coming from. Its coming from people like me. Who when they hear ignorant bigots like you repeat these sorts of lies, we go to the Obama site and donate what we can. For me that's $50 every week that I run into rants from ignorant fools like you.

These amounts greatly supersede limits set by the National Election Committee

No DUH!!! that's why Obama isn't taking any public financing. Hence those limits don't apply to him. I think your ignorance is showing.

And the media is just as bad. The media has a responsibility to report these events; yet, they have been starkingly quiet about any of these events.

Its not a question of the media being bought. Its that the Media deals in FACTS. Something you seem to have given up on.

However, there are documented interviews showing that Ayers was representing foreign interests and backing Barack Obama's education

WOW!! just WOW!!. If you actually had such documentation, I'm sure you would link it. But we ALL know that you don't. Instead someone told you that there was such documentation, and you are so desperate to believe anything bad about Obama, that you will repeat this sort of dishonesty over and over and overy.

You really are a pathetic little worm.

Re: Obama has been lying Since Day One
by Therese in NV

I don't need to hide behind color, for the truth to shine through. Funny, how your type pull the color card when things aren't going your way. Everything I've stated is either currently under investigation and you can look it up yourself, OR, has been verified through different sources. Instead of trying to change the subject, why don't you offer reliable proof to deny my allegations? You can't because I am right and your precious Obama is a Liar!

FYI, you had better take a better look, allegations regarding Senator Obama's indiscretions are being reported across news agencies that aren't in his back pocket, and that isn't just FOX NEWS! Additionally, I have several college degrees, can you spell idiot. If not, look in the mirror.

Re: Obama has been lying Since Day One
by nerdnam

Voter registration fraud is not the same thing as vote fraud nor does it lead to vote fraud. It's just voter registration fraud and not that big of a deal.

Just a fact to chew over.

Re: Obama has been lying Since Day One
by SheldahlGal
Several degrees......I would have expected more from someone like that then desperate posting of lies and GOP rhetoric. Obviously none of those degrees were Journalism degrees -- unless Fox News has its own university.
Has ACORN ever been convicted
by Trebuchet

of any of those accusations you talk about?

No?

It appears that the only ACORN related case that has any traction is the one involving Karl Rove and his office firing the Attorneys General that refused to mount phony indictments against ACORN during election cycles.

Funny how that works, huh?

Re: I know where Obama got some of his money
by Texvol
I gave him every penny I could. I wish I was allowed to give more, because illiterate bigoted cretins like you make me ashamed that we share the same country.
To nerdnam
by American_Bottom
nerdnam:

Voter registration fraud is not the same thing as vote fraud nor does it lead to vote fraud. It's just voter registration fraud and not that big of a deal.

Just a fact to chew over.

Well, actually, it is that big of a deal. Leaving aside the issue of Homeboy's campaign's alleged involvement in such a thing, anytime a dead person is registered to vote by someone else, that is fraud. And fraud is fraud, period.

What "Alleged"
by degsme

What "alleged involvement"?

Are you suggesting that just because an organization is accused of something they don't have a right to an atty to defend them? My how very .... well soviet of you.

And no, fraud is not fraud, period. Telling the store clerk you paid for something when you didn't is not the same as the Republican Governor Guy Hunt lying to his lenders and to pretend that it is, is dishonest.

Furthermore for it to be fraud on the part of ACORN, you have to show that ACORN management INTENTIONALLY sought to register voters that did not have a right to vote. Even a Republican US Attorney found there was no basis for this.

So get your facts straight before you start sliming around

Verified through different sources
by degsme

You say it has been "verified through different sources"

OK cite them please. Show us the verification of be deemed a liar yourself.

BTW you are right, its not just Fox News. Its so called "news" agencies much slimier than Fox. Like NewsMax

As for your college degrees - again, you aren't demonstrating them. You are just claiming them just like your "verified sources".

Show us. or be branded the liar you are.

Re: Really?
by nyecop
degsme wrote the following post at 10/10/2008 6:48 PM:

Hmm so because Obama defended ACORN 13 years ago that means he necessarily is associated with them now?

Actually the answer is yes and Obama admits that he hired them to get voters registered and donated $800,000.00 to them. Proof: <link>

Under investigation by whom? NewsMax - a partisan GOP website? again you are bearing false witness.

No, actually the F.E.C. (Federal Election Commission) has investigated (and is still doing so) and found several problems with donations made to the Obama campaign and found several problems. Example: Numerous donations made by a person named "Good Will" by credit card at $25.00 each totaling well beyond the $4,600 total limit. Hint: The reason you won't see these donations listed is because they are not required by law to be listed since they were made in small increments. Proof: <link>

Take a look for yourself. The rest of your post is pretty much accurate.

Re: Really?
by nerdnam

Proof? Your link goes to some guy who makes a bunch of assertions without any kind of sources.

Not proof, but poof.

CFP?
by degsme

Canada Free Press is proof of what? CFP is a conservative web site. And the best they offer is the CLAIM that the Anneneberg Challenge gave ACORN millions - when in fact nothing of the sort is true. Annenberg Challenge is focussed on School Reform (something conservatives support, after all it was Bush who pushed through NCLB). ACORN is a voting rights organization.

The two have nothing to do with each other and if Annenberg Challenge funnelled money to ACORN it would be a violation of their charter and thus fraud. No such fraud charges exist nor have ever existed. So the CFP claim of a linkage in 95-99 is simply a lie. Same with the claim of the 2000-2002 Board membersihip.

One of the bits of evidence that this is made up of whole cloth is the sentence

of William Ayer’s [emp added] Chicago Annenberg Challenge

Since the Annenberg foundation is not owned, run by nor owes anything TO Ayers, characterizing the Annenberg Challege as belonging to Ayers is just a lie. Had you been unbiased, you would have caught that.

Lastly its also false that the Obama campaign gave ACORN $800,000. Check the FEC records. No such payment exists. They paid money to Citizens Services which is a consulting org that SOMETIMES works with ACORN, but that's not the same as giving money to ACORN.

So the CFP "proof" you offer, has 3 outright falsehoods within it. Thus it is proof of CFP's bias and not much else.

Show us the FEC documents that support the claim that the Obama campaign paid $800k to ACORN and you might have a case to make. But there is a reason the CFP provided no such corroboration - BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST.

As for under investigation by the FEC - wrong again. The FEC notified the Obama campaign of some contribution irregularities. The FEC has similarly notified the McCain campaign of funding irregularities. NO INVESTIGATION of THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN exists here.

Sorry. You've proven how poorly you actually read and not much else.

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