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The New York Times endorsed John McCain
by Kazillions
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Just a reminder to those of you who are going to go temporarily insane when Obama loses ... once John McCain is in office you owe it to the nation and to yourselves to give him a chance.

As much as I may not like it, you can bet he's going to do some things about the environment that few other Republicans would. Personally? I think man made global warming is a myth, but McCain doesn't.

You can bet he's going to try to find a way to legalize millions of Democrat voting illegal immigrants in a way few other Republicans would. As much as I think that is an atrocity, and will speak out about it when the time comes, you might find comfort on that issue.

Democrats will still control both houses of Congress, barring a miracle, so it's doubtful McCain will be able to cut taxes, even though we need a tax cut, and corporations in America, especially, need a tax cut.

This has been a public service announcement. I think we're in for another 5 working days of messiah worship for Obama before the anger, fear, and resentment over this financial crisis settles into a full, clear, and complete understanding of where the blame lies. Democrats gave away so many houses to people who could not afford them, and did so with such an utter lack of understanding of the way economics actually works, that they have brought the entire world to the brink of disaster. But the entire world is learning the old lesson, once again, that there is no such thing as a free lunch, much less a free house.

And you thought we were demagogues over so many years of warning what disastrous consequences socialistic policy brings? You thought Ayn Rand was simplistic in her analysis that even a strong modern economy could crumble to the point of disaster when you turn your back on true freedom? Yeah, I said it. She was right then and she's right now, whether you like her blunt style or not.

I hope this mess doesn't get as bad is it still might. I put some funds into the market on Friday, and left them in. I'm not rich, but I have faith in the American economy. I have faith that the fundamentals are strong, which is a phrase too many liberals are scoffing at without thinking about what is really happening. I think when the stock markets open we're in for another wild ride, but I suspect and deeply hope they will stabilize and begin their recovery within the week. I could be as full of shit as a monkey throwing darts at the stock pages, but I'm putting money where my mouth is.

But there are some other reasons to be optimistic. For one, people still have jobs, and the sun is coming up tomorrow. The fear is that so many businesses are going to stop having the ability to pay salaries they will shut down in an increasing wave. But remember, the reason the Federal Government does not simply "print money" to solve the problem is that the world learned many times how disastrously inflationary that is. Shopping carts filled with cash in Germany, devalued by the end of the day, and all that.

However, there are trillions of fewer dollars existing in the world today than there were a month ago. Yet food is still growing in the fields, the global population is still as large as it was a month ago, oil is still pumping, our power grids have not been cut, and the Russians still love their children too (thanks, Sting, you shallow putz). In other words, demand is still demand, and supply is still supply.

What all this means is that the G-7 and the G-20 are still packed with panicking politicians who might screw this up ten times worse than it needs to be, but the markets will save us all. If a strong business supplying a product for which there is demand needs a loan in order to meet its overheads, then, one way or another, it is going to find someone willing to make that loan for a reasonable return.

You'll notice some geniuses in the world trying to outlaw "interest," failing to understand that interest is truly what makes investing possible.

If all the banks in existence continue to try to hold the politicians hostage by saying they can't or won't lend money, then they are simply opening up the door for enormous opportunities for others to take their place. There is wealth out there, it is possible to make loans, this is a very temporary panic, let the markets work.

The politicians can and may very well will make this disaster last longer and cause far worse damage than if they get out of the way and let the consequences for terrible decisions happen in the free market. They gave away so many thousands, and even millions, of free houses that we now have to pay the price for that socialistic ideal. It is going to hurt. It doesn't have to hurt too much, because in a free market the absolutely key and necessary information about real prices is transmitted far, far more rapidly than under any command and control system man could possibly devise.

People will continue to invest in skilled, intelligent individuals who are operating in their own self-interest. Let it work.

And, by the way, Obama and every single one of his allies, believe fundamentally in nothing but socialistic policies. He cannot and will not be elected for that simple reason.

wishful looney tunes
by daystar

Americans are just not stupid enough to blame the housing bubble on Democrats; it might help if this theory was any where close to real world... but you are pushing a flat out Lie. It is a lot harder to sell Lies when your position looks desperate and your history is full of fast Lies to get an agenda.

otherwise, this post reads like a Sarah Palin quote.... not coherent enough to elicit a response.

Bubbles happen in free markets
by Kazillions

In fact, bubbles happen even more in the black markets that pop up because of socialism.

Nobody is denying that basic human greed exists, it is simply that socialists believe it can be eradicated.

Everything you describe was exacerbated my many times because the Democrats wanted to give away free houses. This disaster would have been as short lived as the last recent bursting economic bubbles were it not for that.

I'm sure you would be able to grasp this difference in intensity if you would let go of your ideological bias for five minutes.

So did the Arizona Republic
by BFD

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But he only got 47.2% of the vote in the Arizona primary.

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Re: The New York Times endorsed John McCain
by jkmurph
heh, on Palin's debut

It was like watching Gidget address the Reichstag.

on your ability to assume responsibility

The incessant grousing about the media was likewise par for the course, red meat for those tens of millions of patriotic flag-waving Americans whose first instinct when things get rough is to whine like bitches and blame other people
maybe if I let go of reality
by daystar

Todd, the bubble was the product of low interest rates. It was investor money that flowed into our real estate market and it came from all over the world. Everyone was making a killing. It is that simple... you are nuts if you think the housing bubble was created by the nation's poor and non-working minorities ... their rates were lower just like everyone's rates were lower, but the bubble was an investor bubble; all bubbles are investor bubbles. If you had the first inkling what you are talking about... what are bubbles?

Re: The New York Times endorsed John McCain
by jkmurph
I mean, seriously, why should you get a fucking vote? When you are demonstrably unwilling to take responsibility for your own actions? What's the point of a vote?

I feel sorry for ya.
by Woolley
All that effort for naught. You could save yourself a lot of grief by just admitting the obvious. Obama in a landslide.
See you Nov 4
by Kazillions
;-)
Re: maybe if I let go of reality
by Kazillions

You are not listening.

Bubbles happen.

In this case, this bubble was metastasized. There's a difference.

Well written post, bravo
by Pace

McCain's gonna lose.

REgards

Pace

Re: I believe Clintons outsourced our Credit Reports 2 INDIA
by lilmacg

for many IT outosurced reasons we have yet to feel come absentee ballot day rpeorting from black and brown market sold ID thefts!

The chosen will win in my view-- The DNC Oilgarths are in position to win or burn!

Too little too late for Chrisitan Faith based veils as Rabbi Marx sons and grandchilren name and religion changed to accomplish what we have created to date with our socialized AA Educators in every ciritical civil servant position!

Tooo many Sir Han Sir hans brought in on Whampoa cargo ships and conflict wars as friendlies with pre paid welfare. Not to mention the Biden I-VAWA Act to legalize every masked woman in America and her kids !

But your Faith when not merged with the Black Jesus Theoloists of UCC INC of Un Foundation and Robin Hood Foundation hedge funders of none govt orgs(240) who will pay to tax to gamble on free market pension trusts while utilizing anything but a FAIRA Tax System and instead Debt Prions re build and privitized by Clintons the welshers in 90s!

Ask any antrax vaccined Stormin Norman!

But Palin was and is refreshing!

Civil unrest is forthecoming by imam refugees invited to America on welfare to get 50 more years of UN Freee flights to America near allits critical positions.

Russia will eventually supply us electricity from Seward's Penisular as it ships out by road and rail to Siberia Exxon Oligarths(DNC shadow pvt bankers) oil and gas on Union Pacific Orphan Train foster care sales routes of the ABA Inc and its I-ABA branch!

hmm

I was listening... it is just that
by daystar

you're not making any sense.

the bubble grew up simultaneously in the whole lower 48.... cuz we have a national Lender market... or at least we had a national Lender market before this meltdown decimated it. Bernanke looked the other way while our industry went belly up... those Lenders died because there was no new business, it was the credit crisis that killed them.

the housing collapse is a direct result of market demand drying up, which dropped prices, leaving high LTV mortgages upside down. Nothing unusual happened there and it all happened before. I fail to see any strong evidence of this rightwing conspiracy theory, neither can I find any compelling reason to believe it. It is a far fetched political ploy with no substance, fodder for the weak of mind and the ignorant. But most americans understand the housing bubble was due to the interest rates... it isn't rocket science.

You are correct, sir.
by DragonTat2

Some place around here (not here here) the sheriff stopped evicting on foreclosed houses (or prevented houses from being foreclosed upon) because those houses were occupied by renters. Renters who were long time residents and held no responsibility in the current default dilemma. Many, many, many houses bought as investments. Something was mentioned about them being bought by those who worked for the lenders. I offer no link. Sorry- call me lazy.

My landlord&lady bought an investment house with relatives, a 2nd mortgage to pay along with the first. Then they co-signed on a big place with their son. Half million dollar mortgage. They put this place up as collateral. Washington Mutual. d=^\ I do so hope I don't have to move this winter.

Living off credit cards? That's how business defines success? LOL... no wonder they're in trouble.

Great post, btw. Thanks.

I agree with Kazillions!
by Dumbass Moron
I'm voting for John McCain because he's going to solve problems that I don't believe exist!
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