For several election cycles the pollsters have been proven wrong. Every time they claim the Democrat is in the lead they end up having missed the call.

Laurie went into some of the weighting reasons earlier, in her own inimitable style -- few know how to whack a hornet's nest better -- as usual, along with her baiting banter, she made some excellent points.

But there has also been a theory I've heard repeated over the years that Republicans tend, at least a bit slightly more than Democrats, to not open up to pollsters who've given them a call.

I could see a liberal arguing that's because those of us voting Republican are ashamed of our greedy, mean personalities for good reason.

That, of course, is hogwash. Most of us our proud of the fact that we're not socialistic extremist progressive liberals, and are willing to tell anyone to their face for whom we are voting and why.

But I know several people personally who are going to vote for John McCain and will not talk about it other than in extremely private circumstances.

Now, me "knowing several people" certainly isn't scientific. But notice how the liberal argument has already formed that "if Obama loses it will be because of racism, and nothing else."

The self fulfilling nature of that prophecy aside, once again, we've just been accused of racism.

For years liberals have whined that they shouldn't be called liberals, while some of the smarter ones have simply said, "It shouldn't be considered a bad word ... I'm a proud liberal." But there's a huge difference between being called a racist hate monger and a "liberal."

So, as you watch the weighted polls tighten just consider how many thousands upon thousands of people the pollsters are calling. I think there's a statistically significant number of people hanging up on the pollsters or pretending to be Obama supporters so the nice girl on the other end of the line isn't offended, or so that the computer tabulation doesn't tag one's phone number a certain way in the data bank. Me? I've never been called to answer a poll in a presidential election, probably because I live in California. But I'd answer.

As these polls tighten, know McCain is taking the lead.

;-)

- Kazillions

Or they are ashamed of their votes?

or they are closet racists and don't want the world to know?

Why else would they not want to be honest about who they support? Oh yeah they are dishonest.

Its not Obama supporters shouting out to "kill him" at their rallys.

Could easily be plants, just as those at the Hillary rallies who said "iron my shirt" were likely plants.

But, those statistically insignificant people (either plants or loons) don't matter in the slightest.

But it's nice to know you think because those of us who don't want to offend the girl on the other end of the line it translates to us being racist liars ... thanks for that insight into your personality.

this election would be on ice.

I swear, he leaves me pissed off time and again. When he told a crowd of supporters that they had nothing to fear from an Obama presidency...I lost it. I ripped off a letter to the campaign and told them that is exactly what we should fear...an Obama presidency.

McCain will probably make a decent president but damn, he is so nutless. He needs to be ripping Obama's head off. People are afraid of Obama and this should be the major theme of the McCain campaign...just how dangerous Obama is.

The numbers will turn toward McCain before election day.

Jack

get might stuffy.

re:

For several election cycles the pollsters have been proven wrong.

Sheer nonsense.

In fact, might as well call your bullshit with the same challenge I just threw at jo.

I totally agree. But it is so often this way for Republican politicians. They demonstrate a true sense of humor and quick intellect, and the mainstream media does everything in their power to rip their nuts off. The key for Republican politicians is to realize, once and for all, "They will never love you; they will never like you. If they invite you to their parties it will only be because they want to show off a new pet. They will always hate you and do their best to destroy you."

The first President Bush learned this the hard way after they fucked him on the tax increases. He'd made his promise, and he deserves the consequences, but they made a deal with him and came out the next day to hang him out to dry.

Reagan learned this the first time he had a scotch with Tip O'Neill. "That's politics," said Tip.

Rush Limbaugh learned this after he moved to New York.

Lesson for any Republican or conservative: "They don't like you. They really, really hate you."

... McCain.

;)

Kindly do not cloud the issue with facts.

Remember the exit polls?

You link a link to another link to one of your posts, that links a dubious claim. Grow up and make your point.

You think the science of polling is Asimovian in its accuracy, yet somehow the major polling organizations keep demonstrating these unrealistic swings in public perception right up until the day of the vote, and then they get it wrong on the very hour the microscope is finally supposed to be in focus.

The truth is, these people get paid. And they get paid depending upon how many people pay attention to them. And the way to get people to pay attention to you is to get stories on the front pages of a leftist media. And so you'd better be sure the leftist media is interested in covering your sorry excuse for a business.

... because if I said I didn't I'd get scolded again. And I just can't handle that.

;-)

I have no problem being the only person in the room to believe I am right.

Thankfully, I'm not the only person in the room to think so.

looking boorish and thence alienating the center....I swear I have seen more stuff this election season to make me swear off the two party system than ever I have before. This is just crazy.

jo

it is the very first thing I thought about...ACORN plants...almost certainly.

jo