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So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by lubbesuh
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Those who support Obama may know the answer to this question. Why did Ayers launch Obama's political campaign? Why did Ayers choose Obama to chair his charity? Ayers is obviously a super intense guy, an idealogue who was willing to commit acts of terrorist violence against the United States for his stated politcal movement. He has not apologized for these acts and has said that he wished he had been more successful. He has been photographed not all that long ago standing on an American flag. So again, what does Ayers see in Obama?
Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by Olive & Ouzo & Figgy

Your post is simply a smear. Obama is neither a terrorist nor a terrorist sympathizer. If Ayers prefers Obama to Obama's opponent, that doesn't make Obama a terrorist. Does McCain agree with all of his supporters about everything? Are you sure you want to play that game?

Since Obama is ahead in the polls despite this widely broadcast story, does that mean that a plurality of US citizens advocate blowing up the Pentagon or does it mean that they see through these desperate scare tactics?

Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by shortcut
Olive & Ouzo & Figgy:

Your post is simply a smear. Obama is neither a terrorist nor a terrorist sympathizer. If Ayers prefers Obama to Obama's opponent, that doesn't make Obama a terrorist. Does McCain agree with all of his supporters about everything? Are you sure you want to play that game?

Since Obama is ahead in the polls despite this widely broadcast story, does that mean that a plurality of US citizens advocate blowing up the Pentagon or does it mean that they see through these desperate scare tactics?

Perhaps, but can you not agree that Ayers is much more than a mere supporter?

Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by JimSanDiego
lubbesuh:
Those who support Obama may know the answer to this question. Why did Ayers launch Obama's political campaign? Why did Ayers choose Obama to chair his charity? Ayers is obviously a super intense guy, an idealogue who was willing to commit acts of terrorist violence against the United States for his stated politcal movement. He has not apologized for these acts and has said that he wished he had been more successful. He has been photographed not all that long ago standing on an American flag. So again, what does Ayers see in Obama?
Ayers didn't choose Obama to chair any charity, but unless you live in a cave you know that. Obama was 8 years old when Ayers committed acts of terrorist violence against this country. The fact that Ayers has not apologized for these acts has nothing to do with Obama, but you know that. Obama has never been photographed standing on an American flag and you know that. He may in fact be seen standing on a flag in a doctored photo wouldn't surprise me given the level the McCain campaign has stooped. But you know that too, don't you you pathetic fascist.
Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by lubbesuh

Since Obama is ahead in the polls despite this widely broadcast story, does that mean that a plurality of US citizens advocate blowing up the Pentagon or does it mean that they see through these desperate scare tactics?

That is why I believe this is a legitimate topic of discussion. Does the voting public really know what Obama supports? He has a history of telling people what they want to hear, but expressing other sentiments when he's in other circles. So there appears to be a pattern of behavior going on here. Obama has far left associations, yet tries to make a case for being more centrist. The case for being a centrist is blown by his comments regarding regarding small town people who cling to guns and religion, his leftist friends and Reverend, and his liberal voting record, and his tax policies. Then the accusations of racism and smears come out.

Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by Olive & Ouzo & Figgy

No, I don't agree. Has Obama adopted a program of violence against the state? Or do you believe that Ayers supports Obama because he believes that he has? I guess if you're paranoid enough you can believe anything about someone's intentions, and it seems that the McCain campaign is counting on that, which doesn't say much for their respect for the people McCain would like to represent.

Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by lubbesuh
Ayers has called himself a communist with a small "c". He is a far left extremist to this day. Why does he support Obama strongly enough to host a fundraiser for him? Conservatives veiw McCain as somewhat suspiciouly moderate and some do not strongly support him for this reason. The far left has no problem with Obama. Why is that?
Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by Olive & Ouzo & Figgy

You can be a liberal and a centrist. It's what the voters seem to want now. Or else they just prefer Obama personally.

Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by Olive & Ouzo & Figgy
The far left has a lot of problems with Obama, but they prefer him to McCain.
Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by lubbesuh

Well, I suppose thorough exploration of Obama's veiws and associations will be helpful to his campaign. Why in anyone complaining?.

Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by Isara71

The charity boards they served on was the Annenberg Challenge Project and the Woods Funds. There were many other people on the boards as well. Did you know Annenberg is a prominent Republican that is supporting McCain?

Left of Dems
by degsme

Because Obama is better than any alternative the GOP can put up? Those of us to the left of the Dems always end up holding our noses and voting Dem - simply because of the trainwreck that is the GOP.

As for your claim

Ayers has called himself a communist with a small "c". He is a far left extremist to this day

What do you base that last statement upon? The former and the latter are not connected except by your attempt to connect them by placing them in adjacent sentences.

The reality is that you have no evidence that a middle class professor at a leading intellectual university is "a far left extremeist to this day".

Frankly I don't think you would know a far left extremist if they bit you in the ankle..

Cuz its not
by degsme

Because you are NOT "exploring Obama's views". Those are very well stated and available to everyone on his website.

What you are trying to do is to make voters mistrust Obama through guilt by association with a man who's "terrorism" (He has less charges standing against him than Ralph Reed does) allegedly occurred when Obama was 8.

So has McCain ever been associated with the convicted terrorist Ralph Reed?

Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by Olive & Ouzo & Figgy

"Well, I suppose thorough exploration of Obama's veiws and associations will be helpful to his campaign. Why in anyone complaining?."

I'm complaining because the top post here is nothing more than an attempt to frighten people who haven't yet made a "thorough examination of Obama's views and associations" -- either that or it's paranoia run amok. Most people who've looked closely aren't buying it.

Re: So what did Ayers see in Obama?
by gotsmartz

He has a history of telling people what they want to hear, but expressing other sentiments when he's in other circles.

And you, lubbesuh, are privy to those alleged 'other circles'? If you have not been there, and not heard first hand, how can you think to comment on what he has said there?

What does McPain express to his 'other circles'? Is it the same venom that he expresses in public forums?

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