Want proof?

Here's the link: www.cpusa.org

you have to get neck deep in your google s**t to make it work fella.

This one is of interest too....

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Didn't we communists have to fight you fascists once before? And didn't we win?

Hi NC~

Do you play an instrument? Is Obama going to take North Carolina?

Did you like the 2 part opinion piece on the economic crisis? It was too general for me. I would like to have seen more info on what regulation Webb (CPUSA Chair) would support.

You may have noticed that the political policy statement included a statement that they DO NOT SUPPORT ANY PARTICULAR CANDIDATE, but that they do support anti-Bush/right wing sentiments. In this election, most centrists, independents, and progressives support Obama because he is not Bush. CPUSA members would agree with more but all of the sentiments of Ralph Nader even if he is anti-Communist.

By the way, if you want to find something about the CPUSA and many other progressives to be legitimately mad about, it is their blind support for illegal immigrants being hired illegally by businesses in America. They will eventually get over it, but it will take a while.

God Speed,

David

Hello David, yes, I play guitar, not professionally in about 10 years but definitly get one out almost daily.

I have been looking at the CPUSA website for several months and I could have sworn that the DNC Platform was written by The Communist Party.

The illegal alien issue has been taboo at the debates even though illegal aliens cost the taxpayer hundreds of billions per year and is about to bankrupt California.... but then look at who has moderated the debates. Last night Tom Brokow was insanely bad.... but his efforts to protect Obama worked well.

but his efforts to protect Obama worked well.

and yet he works for McCain..

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Liberals and Communists have in common wanting to promote the general welfare of working peoples using the state to help accomplish that. Where they differ is over Capitalism: Liberals want to reform Capitalism and Communists believe that it isn't possible to really reform Capitalism indefinitely. Communists will, however, support programs or policies that reform Capitalism or inequities until it is abolished.

I consider myself a Moderate, but I agree with Karl Marx's analysis of Capital: he postulated that there are irreconcilable contradictions that cannot be mitigated without destroying Capitalist relations of production.

The essence of Capital is that one human being hires another to do work that is worth less than what the worker is paid. The difference is Surplus Value. Worker coops are perhaps the only way to seriously deal with the contradiction, but there are still problems.

One thing that the Feds could do to re-establish a manufacturing base is to help underwrite groups of workers that will start up plants that produce essential things. Those workers could gradually repay those loans while being their own bosses. Restrictions could be included that require that only eligible workers participate in those coops in order to limit ineligible workers and (for those that are not ready to abolish 'wage slavery') prolong Capital.

God Speed,

David

Communal living as a nation is stagnation and decline of human value.

That is the proven side of the failure of Communism and the shortcoming of karl marx.

Obama is Karl Marx reincarnated and is following the doctrine of Defeat Your Enemy from Within.

It would help if you elaborated on your post, but I will make some comments. Do you mean that Socialist economies are not good responding to market demand? That is a valid point if production is controlled by government officials rather than by consumers.

I don't know what you mean by communal living. If you mean communes where people live and share together, they have proven, for many reasons, to be difficult to sustain. Cooperative ownership of a business is another matter: what they generally lack is capital, and they can suffer if they fail to assign good leaders to administer them.

I mentioned in a prior post that I agree with the basic tenets of Marx's work on Capital: I read him, however, as a scholar. I wanted to know the limits of his theory and works. I wasn't trying to memorize them like some self-styled Marxist that wants to cite him biblically. Furthermore, there are some important things that have evolved with Capital that have good valuable: entrepreneurship and innovation. Any social order that may eventually supplant Capitalist relations will benefit from those advances in economics.

The fundamental underlying problem is that Capital results in a group of people with disproportionate power at the expense of others, and it only gets worse over time. Weber pointed out that this rise of an elite extends beyond those who own capital to those that control it. I don't know that Marx really anticipated that, but it is of little consequence because one could hardly distinguish them as they have blended together.

When I say that I don't like Capitalism, I don't mean that I don't accept and vigorously support democratic institutions starting with the Greeks. Humanity seems to be moving in the direction of democratic institutions, and societies based on old hierarchies like one sees in the Middle East or Africa will be replaced over time with social institutions that reflect the advances of Democracy. That is my hope for places like the Pashtun region between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Some Communist parties have failed to heed that lesson. The Soviet Union, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Pol Pots regime and others act as though the dictatorship of the proletariat means that they are dictators. The original concept from Lenin, I believe, is that working people gain control of the government.

Forgive me for rambling, but I have found that Communism and Marx have been little understood because of the purposeful distortion of their views and goals by capitalists. I would suggest that you sit down with some communists if you ever meet any and ask them what they really believe. Also, keep in mind that there are a variety of branches of that point of view. I am not suggesting that you seek to become one or consider it, but I am suggesting that you make sure that you know what they actually want to see in society's future.

I have found that I agree with some on some ideas and disagree with most on certain ideas; still, they are citizens with a right to believe just as you have that right.

God Speed,

David

Here is a pretty good example of national communal living I was referring to.

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I have no use for anyone who would try and change our nation in the way Obama wants to cahnge our nation.

I believe Communism is a threat and Marxism is the same threat. Radical Islam is similar in threat to the USA - taking away the religious component of course.

Radical Islam has NO similarities with Marxism except in the goal of defeating this country. But, Conservatives have to STOP believing that this country is ONLY for people who are affluent. I am a Vet, a single parent, and a tax payer, and I matter jsut as much as they do. Its time they learned that, and if it takes a social revolution, then thats what it takes!