You will probably win the election and I am in a fairly good position to survive the liberal backlash that will occur from your media blitzkrieg on this election my question is how will you continue to make Republicans the scape goat for the problems of this country and when will their expiration date run out and Democrats accept their responsibility for America's demise? I am an independent who believes a 2 party system will fail and am supported by none other than George Washington but he is probably a pawn of the republican party years before their existance. Just remember this is what you asked for and you have yourselves to blame. A government withoutout the ability to serve their own agenda serves the american public.

You do have to remember that the GOP have been saying for years that goverment doesn't and can't work. Well they prove it every time they get elected. The GOP knows how to win elections not how to govern. When they win they make sure that they don't turn themselves into liers.

Independent Ted:

...how will you continue to make Republicans the scape goat for the problems of this country and when will their expiration date run out and Democrats accept their responsibility for America's demise?

Uh... it's been 8 years since William Jefferson Clinton left office and the Republicans blame everything from hurricanes to hangnails on "blowjob Bill", who (I'll remind you) left boy George with the Dow at 10,587 and Alan Greenspan worried about "paying off the debt too quickly" - so quickly, in fact, that the creators of the National Debt Clock turned it off because it was "sending the wrong message" because the debt was disappearing. The Dow opened at 9400 today and the makers of the debt clock had to turn it off to ADD digits.

So, to answer your question, I'm going to blame the Republicans until the last person who voted for GWB is dead.

I'd be overjoyed to see a viable third (and fourth) party. Who's your candidate?

So after 8 years of a Republican administration, aided and abetted by a Republican majority in both houses of Congress, you blame the Dems for America's "demise"?! I suppose it's similar to how those perfidious liberals were to blame for all those conservatives voting against the first bailout eh?

Whatever happened to the old conservative ethos of personal responsibility? Now everything seems to be someone elses fault!

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But seriously, I have three questions for you.

1. Remind me please, which party has been in control these past 8 years?

2. Why are we in this handbasket?

3. Does it seem to you like it's getting warmer?

If you have to put "independent" in your alias, you probably aren't one.

As for personal responsibility, the republican party abandoned that when they fell in line behind a spoiled legacy baby who's never been responsible for anything in his entire life. And that includes his 8 years in the White House.

But it's fun to see how Obama has not even won the election yet and the GOP is already trying to blame the collapse of the Dow on him.

Click on "Independent Ted's" history. This is his first and only post on the Fray. Obviously, this was an alias he just cooked up today to spew the post-debate GOP talking points.

So then according the greatbear452 which I guess is his/her real name, , you need to have a track record posting on the Fray, or your point is either not valid, or some right wing idealog using an alias. Pssst... Greatbear.... in case you didn't notice, YOU ARE USING AN ALIAS.... shhhhh.........

My point, since it went sailing over your head, is that if you're going to use an alias like "Independent Ted", maybe you would be more convincing if you posted an independent thought instead of the usual republican talking points.

In other words, if it the right wing idealog suit fits, wear it!

Greatbear452:

My point, since it went sailing over your head, is that if you're going to use an alias like "Independent Ted", maybe you would be more convincing if you posted an independent thought instead of the usual republican talking points.

In other words, if it the right wing idealog suit fits, wear it!

Now now Greatbear,

It's clear that he is independent (of critical thinking skills at least...)

More convincing to who? YOU??? Yes of course because we all know that the leftist storm troopers marching in lock step are so fair and open minded.

Phizz:

More convincing to who? YOU??? Yes of course because we all know that the leftist storm troopers marching in lock step are so fair and open minded.

I was going to say to anyone capable of critical thinking, but obviously, that would have left you out. And you probably would have missed the point yet again.

bugger, you are as ignorant about politics as you are about science.

1. Bill "loathing the military" Clinton PROMISED Americans a "tax cut" if he was elected. He was, and he HIKED our taxes instead. Did you lefties care? Nawww. You didn't even care that....

2. Clinton RAPED Juanita Broaddrick, and that Clinton

3. Groped Kathleen Willey days after her husband died, or that

4. Clinton committed perjury and obstruction of justice while he was

5. Being investigated for SEXUAL HARASSMENT not to mention

6. Indecent exposure as Clinton

7. Pulled out his "thumb-sized" (per Monica Lewinsky, who WOULD KNOW) unit and asked Paula Jones to "kiss it", plus

8. Clinton said "Saddam Hussein MUST GO as liberals cheered, but you didn't really mean it, moreover

9. Clinton turned down Sudan's offer to hand Osama bin Laden over to us with a trove of documents and intelligence, then

10. Clinton pardoned 140 convicted felons, including filthy rich Marc Rich, and

11. The Republican Congress deserves much of the credit for the economic boom as it enacted many of the ten points of the Compact With America, on top of which

12. Clinton SAVAGED our military, which you would of course call "savings" and "fiscal prudence."

Bush had to rebuild Clinton's idiocy, and then Bush took out Saddam Hussein, as Clinton and Gore said should be done.
That makes you liberals very sad since you hate America so much you'd like to see the terrorists win in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I'm surprised you can still see the words on those "it's all Clinton's fault" talking points, after 8 long years of jacking off with them.

America will be better off when more people like you get out of your caves, out of the past, and start working with the here and now.

WhiteSoxFan 2:

You do have to remember that the GOP have been saying for years that goverment doesn't and can't work. Well they prove it every time they get elected. The GOP knows how to win elections not how to govern. When they win they make sure that they don't turn themselves into liers.

Explain that one to Nancy Pelosi PLEASE !!!