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McCain/Keating vs Obama/Ayers - BIG DIFFERENCE!
by DoctorTom

Charles Keating is (or was) a close asociate of Senator John McCain of Arizona. Charles Keating was very closely associated with Senators Cranston , DeConcini, Glenn, Riegel and John McCain - known as "The Keating Five". Charles Keating is a convicted felon, having been found guilty of FRAUD, RACKETEERING, AND CONSPIRACY. Keating SERVED SEVEN YEARS in FEDERAL PRISON as a result of his conviction(s).

William Ayers is (or was) an acquaintance of Senator Barack Obama, whose children went to the same school as Obama's and who served on the board of a charitable group on which Barack Obama also served. Ayers hosted a "Get To Know The Candidate" event when Obama first ran for office.Ayers is not a convicted felon, and to the best of my research has never been convicted of ANYTHING!

Re: McCain/Keating vs Obama/Ayers - BIG DIFFERENCE!
by RANGER 82

All of the Keating Five EXCEPT McCain were Demnocrats.

Ayers does not consider himself a terrorist as "terrorists commit random acts of terror, not directed actions." Ayers and the Weather Underground tried and succeeded in killing innocent public servants. All of their efforts were not succesful. One success should be enough for you. They attacked the public infrastrcture. They chuckle fondly about the results.

The Weather Undedrground purpose was to destroy the government of the United States of America and establish a communist (little "c", Ayers own wording) government in its place. Now Barney, equate that to the Keating scandal.

Ayers did say he wasn't a Stalinist, so maybe he wasn't that bad, right?

Ranger, Can you say "FELONY CONVICTION"?
by DoctorTom

Maybe you'd like to explain why Ayers was never convicted of anything.

No matter who said what, or what you want to be true, the facts remain - and two of those facts are:

Keating is a convicted felon.

Ayers is not.

Ranger, have you heard of Raffaello Follieri?
by DoctorTom

He's the guy who owns the mega-yacht where McGeezer celebrated his 70th birthday recently.

Sadly for you and the rest of the McCain/Palin fans, Follieri is also under indictment for money laundering and other financial crimes.

So now it looks like McCain's association with felons and crooks is not just a one-time deal. It begins to look like the norm - not the exception.

Maybe McGeezer would have been smarter to stay away from the personal attack strategy after all. This kind of shit is going to seriously undermine the little bit of credibility the ancient one still had.

Are you merely uneducated, or simply lying
by Beleg

Bill Ayers never killed anyone. The Weathermen never killed anyone but themselves. They always issued evacuation warnings prior to the bombings. The only person whe was ever associated with or a member of the Weathermen, or the subsequent Weather Underground Organization who ever killed anyone was Kathy Boudin when she participated in an unrelated armed robbery in Nayak NY, well after Weathermen founders Mark Rudd and Ayers, as well as Bernadine Dohrn and Kathy Wilkerson had surrendered to police.

Re: Ayers did not do time, was released because
by PatIowa
FBI plants were acting as agent provocatures....it was always a "conspiracy" .....and Obama was 8 years old at the time....where John McCain was definitely old enough to know better...but didn't!
Re: Ayers did not do time, was released because
by RANGER 82
You are a consumate apologist. Why did BHO write the forward for Ayers book? How old was he then?
Re: I'm pretty sure Ranger, he was younger
by PatIowa
then John McCain when he was flying aback and forth with Keatings...and speaking to the Banking regulators on behalf of his good friend....I'm pretty sure Obama was writing the forward on Ayers book (if that IS even true..which I seriously doubt) about the time that Ayers was involved with several educational foundations in various CHicago areas..with a whole lot of very prominent Conservative Republicans in the Illinois and Chicago area who ALL worked together to improve early education (SHOCK in a bipartician fashion) in the Illinois...by the way, what WAS Ayers charges, and when did he last service any time??? who died? Ranger, you got nothin...and John McCain's got even more nothin....gosh darn it <wink> I'm a thinkin that is why John has set his and the Governors hair on fire and are running around shouting..."FIRE FIRE...DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON"! So what exactly IS John's plan for the getting the economy back on track??? cutting taxes?? deregulating?? vetoing earmarks?? Trickle down is leg economics?? (piss on the middle class?)
Re: Are you merely uneducated, or simply lying
by RANGER 82
Seven people died as a result of this non-terrorist terrorist group. Lie all you wish.
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