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Does violence breed violence?
by unrbug
Third Female Soldier Slain at Fort Bragg <link> The Associated Press: "For the third time in four months, a female soldier based at Fort Bragg is dead, and a husband or lover is charged with murder -- leading critics to demand the home base of the Army's elite soldiers exert 'control over their troops' and address domestic violence. Police on Friday charged Sgt. Richard Smith, 26, and Pfc. Mathew Kvapil, 18, with first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder only days after Smith's wife was found stabbed to death in a pool of her own blood."
Re: Does violence breed violence?
by tsukuhara@hotmail.com
No Democrat lies do.
Re: Does violence breed violence?
by Rob1

Unebug, precisely what the hell are you trying to infer here?

The military, like any other organization, has to recruit from the human race. Which means that there will be always be a few bad apples in every bunch.

Which is why there is a Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Violence, in this instance, as you would seem to suggest, did not breed violence.

The character defiencies alone within the individuals in question was the underlying root cause for the violence.

As is the case in civilian life as well.

Good and bad can be found in all walks of life.

Re: Does violence breed violence?
by tsukuhara@hotmail.com

Unebug, didn't you ever consider this woman might have been screwing around?

And like what the fuck was O.J's excuse?

Rob, did you hear about the 7 year old boy in Austrailia who managed to get into a zoo there, and bludgeoned some of the other zoo exhibits (most of which were other reptiles I gather) and fed them to a croc named Terry I think?

Someone needs to reach this child before he harms any more animals.

Maybe he could work his magic with Democrats?

Re: Does violence breed violence?
by Rob1

Maybe he was brainwashed by Australia's version of liberals?

Too much of that crocodile hunter shit. Feed and love the poor beasts. Embrace them in your heart, and give them TLC, and they'll stop their unsocial behavior. Typical liberal mindset. Love can cure everything. Love everybody and everything, except those who disagree with you.

Feed them to the crocs.

They're a poor, misunderstood, maligned and persecuted species, and it's not their fault if they eat people (all conservatives, I presume).

But then, I forgot whether I was talking about crocs or liberals here.

Re: Does violence breed violence?
by unrbug

Rob I phrased my words in a question. As a student 40 years ago I heard of the violence that comes home after a war. It is just a fact of life and war. I also heard from Mrs Zerzo and Mrs. Smart about how husbands return from war often changed and more violent.

War moves families around and this can effect the family stability. Too bad about the 2 innocent babies dying. Just observations from a 67 year old lady. Good and bad in every group but when it came to violence and torture it was known that some people who had failed in civilian prisons joined the service .... .

Re: Does violence breed violence?
by tsukuhara@hotmail.com

Your sick Unebug. You ever seen American Me? The opening scene is during World War II, and a hispanic woman is gang banged by a bunch of sailors.

Sailors often have a bad reputation having " a black baby in every port", or urban myths about homoeroticism, foul language, drug use,and spending habits.

Shall we start jumping to conclusions since your husband was in the Navy? Did he help any other sailors check their oil?

Did he double dip when he returned from a sea voyage? Did you notice any odd flavors when you gave him the service?

You might find that distasteful, but then again so are your implications. And this is not the first second or third time. I don't find your musings about soldiers behavior amusing, and it's pretty safe to say the actual soldiers here don't either.

Re: Does violence breed violence?
by unrbug

Tody da. Get off your high horse! Now I am suppose to protect the delicate soldiers feelings that just because some of them have served they do not want to hear about actions done by other soldiers who were exposed to violence and did not have the moral fortitude to with stand the enfluence that effected their actions.

Get real. If illegal drugs effect peoples actions negatvely I am suppose to not mention it to you because your feelings might be hurt. Heaven forbid. Play with fire then expect to be burned. The mind is a delicate thing.

Make you a deal.
by tsukuhara@hotmail.com

I'll get off the high horse if you get off the baby killer shit.

Deal? You can't do it can you? You just can't resist temptation, even when this crowd doesn't like hearing that shit.

Re: Make you a deal.
by Rob1

My brigade in Vietnam (11th LIB, Americal Division) was responsible for the My Lai Massacre. Our official nickname for the 11th Brigade was Jungle Warriors. But after My Lai we were given the unofficial designation, The Baby Killer Brigade.

Some actually seemed to take an perverse sense of pride in the label.

Most of us abhorred it though.

As stated in my initial response, it is what's inside the individual that counts.

As for My Lai, merely a breakdown of discipline within the chain of command during a time that discipline was needed the most.

United States service personnel do not as a policy deliberately seek to harm civilians. That it does happen is merely a testament to the confusion that occurs on the battlefield.

What happened at My Lai was a testament to the stupidity and derilection of duty on the parts of Cpt Ernest Medina and Lt William Calley.

Both failed to enforce discipline with their ranks when such discipline was sorely needed.

My Lai need not have happened, and the disreputable acts of a few rouge soldiers should not be a blanket condemnation of the armed forces.

War does not breed violence among returning vets.

Character defiencies with the individual in question do.

Most vets return to lead peaceful, law abiding lives.

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