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Obama Surges
by haddamgonewild
Perhaps the McCain supporters were WORKING when the poll was taken. I honestly don;t beleive those states would vote for Obama and his socialist agenda.
Re: Obama Surges
by bdb

So you're suggesting that McCain supporters collectively took a two-week vacation following the RNC?

Interesting theory. Care to expound?

Re: Obama Surges
by sigmond

It's the Republican version of the "all Obama supporters only have cell phones" meme that was going around.

Polls suck either way.

Re: Obama Surges
by bdb
Well, it's a lot stupider than the "polls don't call cell phones" meme because a) There *are* a lot of folks, especially in cities and among young people, without land lines b) Polls conduct surveys over the course of a whole day, with an emphasis on evening hours when they expect voters to be home. Polls don't suck, however, since give or take a few percentage points, they do present a fairly accurate picture of what the people think, and more importantly, trends in public opinion.
Re: Obama Surges
by WhiteSoxFan 2
Does anyone realize that this year the polls are just BS. If they were right Obama would have won New Hampshire and Mcain never would not have won anything.
Re: Obama Surges
by Mark_RSM

Dear Haddamgonewild,

The one thing that normally happens is the Republicans normally do slight better than the polls show, as Republicans tend to vote more than Democrats.

So in a close race, like Bush 2000/2004, even though the polls showed him behind he was able to win.

Obama is not running on his agenda, I am not sure he has one, he is running at not being Bush. His complete focus is to say he is not Bush, never been Bush,and never will be Bush.

Funny thing is, he is not running against Bush, and Mr McCain is no Bush.

But the message has worked, and as Mr Obama degree is in speech, he is very effective in saying Bush in just about every single paragraph.

It is funny how a person is assumed to be intelligent if he can speak well or write well, but is more or less unable to do anything else.

Mrs Palin has more experience as executive than anybody running and is liked by 80 percent of the people that are in her state, but everybody says she does not know anything.

If she was a man, none of this would be happening, and if she was a man she would have been at the top of ticket, instead of the bottom.

God Bless You

Re: Obama Surges
by Mark_RSM

Dear Whitesoxfan2,

You are correct the polls like information that is important, like how many elections have you voted in the past?

How often to do you change your mind?

And do you like to vote for two candidates on teh same ballot?

And how many times are you going to vote.

All these things make a big different in a close race.

God Bless You

Re: Obama Surges
by Actuality Ambassador
Mark_RSM:

Dear Whitesoxfan2,

You are correct the polls like information that is important, like how many elections have you voted in the past?

How often to do you change your mind?

And do you like to vote for two candidates on teh same ballot?

And how many times are you going to vote.

All these things make a big different in a close race.

God Bless You

Correct.

Fact is most people don't make up their minds until the very day that they vote

Re: Obama Surges
by bdb
Actuality Ambassador:
Mark_RSM:

Dear Whitesoxfan2,

You are correct the polls like information that is important, like how many elections have you voted in the past?

How often to do you change your mind?

And do you like to vote for two candidates on teh same ballot?

And how many times are you going to vote.

All these things make a big different in a close race.

God Bless You

Correct.

Fact is most people don't make up their minds until the very day that they vote

[citation needed]

Re: Obama Surges
by WhiteSoxFan 2
Mark_RSM:

Dear Whitesoxfan2,

You are correct the polls like information that is important, like how many elections have you voted in the past?

How often to do you change your mind?

And do you like to vote for two candidates on teh same ballot?

And how many times are you going to vote.

All these things make a big different in a close race.

God Bless You

I'm glad you and others notice these things about the "polls" but me personally I've voted in every election since I've been able to vote, for the first time in my life its not the lesser of two evils and I like both the candidates on the dems ticket and I've always made up my mind weeks, if not months in advance. As for the question of how many times I vote well I am from Chicago so..... Just kidding.
Re: Obama Surges
by Greatbear452

haddamgonewild:
Perhaps the McCain supporters were WORKING when the poll was taken. I honestly don;t beleive those states would vote for Obama and his socialist agenda.

I wonder if you're still going to say that on January 20.

Of course, if you think Obama has a "socialist agenda", then it's likely that you don't know what socialism really is.

And I know you may find it hard to believe, but pollsters do tend to call people during hours when they're likely to be home. No pollster could even make a poll by only calling unemployed people.

Re: Obama Surges
by Actuality Ambassador

Socialism is controlled capitalism. The gov't gets a big piece of the money made. How much money is depened on how liberal the gov't is. Extreme socialism is communism. Which is where all money made goes to the gov't and is distrubuted evenly to everybody. Moderate socialism is where gov't takes a big chunk of your $ in the form of heavy taxes and uses it for welfare programs such as healthcare, insurance, un-enployment etc. The people are still seperated by different economic classes but the differences are not as extreme. and income is a lot less than compared with true capitalist societys. healthcare and insurance are cheaper, but quality of life is reduced in order to distribute equal benefits to everyone. True capitalism is what we have here (or used to have here) no regulation, economic classes are more extreme, and their is no limit to how poor or rich one person can be. economic prosperity is everybodysindividual responsibility, and regulation is minimal or none.(what was once called the american dream)

Re: Obama Surges
by Greatbear452

Socialism is controlled capitalism.

BZZZZT!!!!

From Merrima-Webster:

Main Entry:so·cial·ism

Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\

Function:noun

Date:1837

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

cap·i·tal·ism

Pronunciation: \ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm, ˈkap-tə-, British also kə-ˈpi-tə-\

Function:noun

Date:1877 :

an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

Thank you for playing, but your answer was incorrect.

This is why knowing what you're talking about is useful.

Re: Obama Surges
by Actuality Ambassador
Greatbear452:

Socialism is controlled capitalism.

BZZZZT!!!!

From Merrima-Webster:

Main Entry:so·cial·ism

Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\

Function:noun

Date:1837

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

cap·i·tal·ism

Pronunciation: \ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm, ˈkap-tə-, British also kə-ˈpi-tə-\

Function:noun

Date:1877 :

an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

Thank you for playing, but your answer was incorrect.

This is why knowing what you're talking about is useful.

Exactly: CONTROLLED CAPITALISM

What took you the better part of an hour to copy out of the dictionary, I was able to sum up in 2 words. sometimes to budget your words to make a point can provide a deeper impact then to copy them word for word from a resource.

Re: Obama Surges
by Actuality Ambassador

Greatbear452 You really have no idea what socialism is do you? You should look it up in the encyclopedia and paste it instead of a dictionary. It won't make you look any smarter but by reading it you might get a better idea of what your talking about. (or maybe not)

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