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This Palin you speak of sounds amazing!
by Brian K
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I'd love to meet her sometime. The fact that she signed a bill she didn't agree with because her oath of office demanded it is almost Lincoln-esque in its humanity and its wisdom. I'd take a government full of women like her any time.

Is she any relation to the Sarah Palin who spoke at the Republican National Convention? Because that woman, I didn't care for.
Re: This Palin you speak of sounds amazing!
by samurailawyer
Just like liberals don't care for anyone who is a Republican, or at least acts like one. You people loved McCain before he revealed that he was, in fact, a Republican who held some conservative and pro-military positions and before became the lead contender against your Marxist Messiah. And yes, I know those terms don't exactly fit in the same sentence but I think Obama is doing a great job of welding them together.
Re: This Palin you speak of sounds amazing!
by wayhey1
The Bush administration buys (and bails out) bank after bank after insurance company and Obama is a 'Marxist?'
LMAO!
Re: This Palin you speak of sounds amazing!
by Brian K
For your information, samurailawyer, I'm a registered independent who voted Republican for president from '80-'00.

Those who are truly "Country First" are harder to stereotype than you think.

Marxist?
by middleview

What bullshit! You don't know what a marxist is. What industries is Obama talking about nationalizing? Don't bother with the attempt to make his health care proposal look like nationalization. I know better.

McCain has become Bush. He has hired Rove and others like him because he will now do anything to get elected.

Palin became the VP nominee because people like Robertson, Hagee and Dobson picked her. What kind of maverick is McCain now that he is letting the "agents of intolerance" pick his #2.

Obama picked Biden to make a stronger team to govern the country. McCain picked Palin because he thought she'd get votes.....

Obama and Biden will be a great administration if they can avoid being blamed for the mess that they will have when they walk in the door.

Re: This Palin you speak of sounds amazing!
by b0nnylass
samurailawyer has nothing to offer but lame stereotypes. But you have to give him credit for sticking with the 'Obama as messiah' schtick long after everyone else moved on to slightly more pertinent criticisms. And samurai, I'm pretty sure Dems were always aware McCain had some 'pro-military positions'. Like, duh.
Re: This Palin you speak of sounds amazing!
by Ridry

I'm an independent, previously republican leaning, these days I don't like them so much.

I happen to know a Democrat though, who is staunchly pro-choice, and she would have voted for McCain over Obama (whom she thought wasn't experienced enough) if McCain had just kept his mouth shut about abortion. Old McCain didn't approve of abortion, but he said he wouldn't take steps to undo Roe vs. Wade.

Now he went back on it 8 years later and she's voting Obama. The Dems don't dislike McCain now because he's running against Obama, they dislike McCain now because he, like Bush, can't help but pander to the religious right. Oh, and I'm Catholic btw, but religion has no place in politics.

Re: This Palin you speak of sounds amazing!
by entj4sure

Ridry is exactly right. Democrats didn't have a problem with the old McCain, but the minute he said he would appoint judges to the Supreme Court that would overturn Roe vs. Wade...well you just lost 60% of the female vote. I guess the Republicans thought about it and decided they could will with evangelicals, but they can't. Not when they have decided that the number one agenda is to overturn Roe vs. Wade.

If you want to see an all-out riot in this country, just try doing it. Evangelicals need to understand that this is one issue that they can not win on. Everyone wants to reduce the number of abortions, Dems and Repubs alike, but don't try telling women that they don't have a choice about reproduction. The statistics are horrific on young unwed mothers. In effect, it destroys any chance they have in life.

Re: This Palin you speak of sounds amazing!
by Philadelphia Steve

Re: "but the minute he said he would appoint judges to the Supreme Court that would overturn Roe vs. Wade...well you just lost 60% of the female vote. "

This is something of a projection on my part, but I wold wager that most of the PUMA's are not aware that John McCain has made that promise to the Religous Right. And, if the RNC has their way and the media remains somnamulent, they never will... Until he keeps that promise.

Re: This Palin you speak of sounds amazing!
by justanotherbrick

samurailawyer:
Just like liberals don't care for anyone who is a Republican, or at least acts like one. You people loved McCain before he revealed that he was, in fact, a Republican who held some conservative and pro-military positions and before became the lead contender against your Marxist Messiah. And yes, I know those terms don't exactly fit in the same sentence but I think Obama is doing a great job of welding them together.

First of all get over your childish generalzations, there is no such population as 'you liberals' or 'you conservatives' for that matter. That and your meaningless cliches 'Marxist Messiah' and ' pro military' overwhelm your point and destroy any bit of credibility you may have.

Second, as a liberal leaning independent I could have lived with the McCain who ran in 2000. The McCain that is running in 2008 has very little resemblance to his past. He has turned away from any 'maverick' positions he has held. He has embraced the failed policies of the Bush White House, voting in lockstep with them over 90% of the time. He has waged the type of campaign spreading lies and personal attacks he rallied against. He has turned to Rove for advice, the man who smeared him and disgraced him. He has pandered to the evangelical community promising to appoint judges who will overturm Roe v Wade. And most of all, rather then making a vice presidential decision that would be best for the nation in his view, he allowed the republican party to choose his running mate for pure politics.

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