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Equal Pay for Equal work
by Mark_RSM
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Dear Friends,

Once again Mr Obama has not been about to keep one of his commitments, and this one would have been very easy to keep.

Equal pay for equal work, as Mr Obama was raised in a Muslim country, and I am sure it is hard for him to admit a woman can do as good as a job as a man.

Mr McCain on the other hand has a woman who was running campaign for a long time, and has selected a woman to be his running mate.

Some would say he has done this to cater to women voters, but before any was watching him, he was doing this.

He pays 1.04 to women for every 1.00 he pays men on his staff, and why you ask, the reason is he hired the best people and they happened to be woman.

I am sure if you asked him, he would say, hey, I am not a hire only woman kick, so I will not commit I can do this forever but if the best person is a woman, then she gets the job.

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I have no idea how the Democrats are going to be able to reach out to women, when they have a canidate that has only beat them down.

God Bless You

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by AllThatJazz

Lies, lies, lies. Do you think anyone (besides yourself) is dumb enough to believe this BS? I'm sure you have proof of all these charges, right? Of course you do.

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by Utz_the_Crab_chip

I never understood how business leaders keep messing up on the Equal Pay thing. If I'm running a business and I only have to pay a woman 70% of a man's pay to do the same work, I would never hire a man.

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by ClaimsAdjuster
Mark_RSM:

Equal pay for equal work, as Mr Obama was raised in a Muslim country, and I am sure it is hard for him to admit a woman can do as good as a job as a man.

Is the USA a Muslim country now? I missed that.

For you to complain about "Equal pay for equal work" you would first have to demonstrate that "equal work" is indeed an issue which your link did not address.

Senator McCain has been in congress now for 26 years. Over that time he has developed a staff of older people, particularly women, who are very loyal to him. McCain's staff proved their loyalty in early 90s when they helped cover up Cindy McCain's drug addiction and theft of prescriptions from her own charity. McCain owes his staff.

McCain did not think that owed Tom Gosinski, Cindy's former employee and once a close friend of the McCains, who drew the line at Cindy having doctors write out prescriptions for pain killers in his name. The McCains blackballed Gosinki from further employment in Arizona Republican politics, leading him to become a whistleblower.

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by Slawrence5

Utz_the_Crab_chip wrote: "I never understood how business leaders keep messing up on the Equal Pay thing. If I'm running a business and I only have to pay a woman 70% of a man's pay to do the same work, I would never hire a man."

Why pay 70% when you can off shore the jobs for 10%?

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by Mark_RSM

Dear AllThat Jazz,

Did you read the link?

God Bless You

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by Mark_RSM

Dear Utz_the_crab_chip,

You are correct in that reasoning, but on many jobs such as large companies, it is not what is best for the company but what is best for the person doing hiring.

The reason small business is better is they can not afford to have over paid people, I know I run one.

I have worked at Boeing, and at Boeing it really does not matter they have so many people doing so much, the labor on one person make little or no difference.

The reason that business go out of business is because they hired the wrong people, as in business normally somebody is making money doing it, like Southwest, they never seem to need a government bailout.

My wife suffers from this, she is a lower level than the people she trains and then they move up in to another position, above her, with less education, and experience.

The key is that we all get a the same chance no matter what our race, sex, religion is, then business will make more money.

God Bless You

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by Mark_RSM

Dear Claimadjuster,

Mr Obama lived in Indonesia from 5 to 10 years old, these are very important years in a childs development.

God Bless You

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by ClaimsAdjuster

It was ages 6 to 10. Obama went to a public school where he took some religious classes, two years of Islam and another two of Roman Catholicism.

In any event, the other 14 years of Obama's young life were in the USA, which makes your statement that he was "raised in a Muslim country" at best inaccurate and at worst duplicitous.

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by Mark_RSM

Dear ClaimsAjuster,

Do you know what the penatly is for converting a child in Indonesia from Muslim to be a Christian?

It is not pretty, trust me, it does not happen, nobody even today would want to try this, and in 1960's it was much worst.

I am sure we all agree that by the time you are 13 your young life is over, and you are gained most of your norms.

Also your first three years are based on the what you see in the home, and as he had a Muslim father, I am sure that came across.

God Bless You

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by Mark_RSM

DearClaimAdjuster,

You are correct about the age, he was there for 5 years, but was 6 when he got there and 10 when he left, my mistake.

Btw: While he as attending the Catholic School, he was lisited as a Muslim, the school was run by the church but was very careful to seperate the kids based on religion.

Some people that attended a Muslim school were also Christians, as in Indonesia the law clearly states you are the religion of your father.

God Bless You

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by Davelias12

Mark_RSM:

Dear ClaimsAjuster,

Do you know what the penatly is for converting a child in Indonesia from Muslim to be a Christian?

It is not pretty, trust me, it does not happen, nobody even today would want to try this, and in 1960's it was much worst.

I am sure we all agree that by the time you are 13 your young life is over, and you are gained most of your norms.

Also your first three years are based on the what you see in the home, and as he had a Muslim father, I am sure that came across.

God Bless You

I'm not sure what you're actually addressing here: people do not change their beliefs after 13 years of age, or you do not like Muslims? Seriously, the topic has moved from inaccuracies about equal pay to speculation about his religious adherence.

Being born Muslim does not make one a Muslim. Being born any religion does not make it so. You have to believe in one of them. Regardless of what school he went to, you cannot presuppose that he was either, especially at such a young age.


Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by calico_jack
The $0.70 to $1.00 thing is not for "equal work." They take the amount of money women made divided by the total number of women surveyed, and compared that to the amount of money men made divided by the total number of men surveyed...That's it. There's no adjustment for equal work.

Keep your God's grubby hands off of me thank you!
Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by AllThatJazz
Mark_RSM:

Dear AllThat Jazz,

Did you read the link?

God Bless You

Yes, I read the link. Without having all the data (individual salaries, responsibilities, experience), the story means nothing. Funny that you're simultaneously pretending to be a champion of women while also being anti-Muslim. I guess you're not as progressive as you pretend to be.

Re: Equal Pay for Equal work
by ClaimsAdjuster
Mark_RSM:

You are correct about the age, he was there for 5 years, but was 6 when he got there and 10 when he left, my mistake.

Do the math, it is 4 years.

Mark_RSM:

Btw: While he as attending the Catholic School, he was lisited as a Muslim, the school was run by the church but was very careful to seperate the kids based on religion.

No, the Catholic school did not provide religious instruction in other faiths. Obama studied catechism.

Mark_RSM:

Some people that attended a Muslim school were also Christians, as in Indonesia the law clearly states you are the religion of your father.

In reality Obama attended not an "Muslim" school but the state run SDN Menteng 01 in Central Jakarta.

The principal in a 2007 interview said what was taught at the school was in accordance with the national curriculum and that his school, which he has been in charge of since 1999, was open to students of any religion.

SDN Menteng 1 was built by the Dutch colonial government in 1934 and was accepted into the Indonesian national system in 1961. Since then the school, which occupies 2300m2, has received students from all sorts of backgrounds, the principal stated.

This year we have 474 students and there are Muslims, Christians, and also Hindus. We accept them all here.

90% were Muslims, he said, but that was only because most Indonesians were Muslim. Non-Muslim students receive religious instruction in their own religion, in a separate classroom.

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