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Religion
by dathinker

Amazing insight! I have been thinking similar things all along. After I began to question Christianity, I was searching for an alternative to find peace within myself. I examined Scientology and it seemed plausible until I read about their "creation story". What wackjobs!

But then I sat back and realized that the Bible has very similar wacky stories! The glaring difference is that the Bible only includes stories which were imaginable 2,000 or so years ago. I'm sure if it were written 50 years ago like Scientology was, it would probably include some story about aliens as well!

Re: Religion
by apekun
Yea I don't think so. If Chrisianity was just a bunch of imaginary stories then why would it still be accepted by so many people thousands of years later. Christianity is still alive. Jesus is real. And scientology is just another religion. They all come and go. There can only be one God and one true religion. Lets just hope everyone makes the right choice before its too late.
Re: Religion
by travisdesmeules
Where did you read about this creation story?
Re: Religion
by timetodowhatsright
Question . . . why do you all find it so necessary to believe in a "Supreme Being?" Is it because you cannot be a good person without believing that someone is watching your every move in case you screw up? Or is it because you think that without believing you will just become "worm food" instead of experiencing an after-life? What's so bad about dying and becoming fertilizer for the next generation of living things. That's what the circle of life IS! I don't want to "live" forever anyway. And I'm a good person to all living things because I WANT to be--not because I'm afraid your God will punish me if I'm not. I just don't get it . . .
Re: Religion
by Alex Rapids
People believe in a supreme being because they see that a supreme being must logically exist. How did all the matter that exist come into existance? And if Newton's laws are correct, then how exactly did all the matter in the universe get set into motion. Let me see if I can remember, I think the one I am looking for goes something like "an object at rest will stay at rest unless acted upon by an outside force." Well then I am perplexed. How exactly did the big bang occur unless a force outside of matter acted upon it? If you have an answer for me, I would be delighted to know. Thanks
Re: Religion
by apekun
It is not the need to have someone watching over us. We are not perfect. We are naturally prone and drawn to sin. We can't do anything about it. But God sent his one and only son here on this sinful earth to save us. When Jesus lived here he was the only man that did not sin. And he had to be completely pure for him to be able to die for us. If he would have sinned and died, it would have not made any difference. He died for the sins I did yesterday and will do tomorrow, not his own so that we could have forgiveness for eternity. God promised us a better life after this one where there will be no sin, no hurt, no sickness, no crying, no pain. Not because we deserve it, but because he loves us and we are his children. Think of this life on the earth as just a temporary home and the real treasure is in heaven. God Bless
Re: Religion
by timetodowhatsright
I think we're all just looking for answers. It's just that I can't see why we must think an Almighty must have created matter. If this is so, what is the Almighty made of? And who created her?
Re: Religion
by Rapture1953

Have you ever stole anything? Have you ever lied about anything? Have you ever killed anything? Have you ever cheated anyone?

Man has a tendency to lower the standards enough to fool himself into thinking that he is "good".

I just really don't think I'm that good..but I have a "good" Lord and Savior, who did live, and who did die, and who did live again, and who is coming back soon for me. That is my testimony; I know what happened to me spiritually in 1998 and I pray the same thing will happen to you one day soon.

And brother..Knowing HIM and knowing the Future, is REAL PEACE.

Re: Religion
by timetodowhatsright
That's all fine. I'm happy for you. Yes, I've messed up, but I don't think I need to ask for forgiveness from something I don't believe in. I just turn around and do better next time. I'm truly not saying I don't want YOU to believe, because you apparently need to. I DON"T need to. I'm very happy thinking I'm here on Earth for a short time, and that's it. I don't care about an afterlife of happiness and bliss. I have it NOW. I don't care about eternity. I am happy to be a part of the natural cycle of things. I don't care about the super-natural cycle of things. I don't need it. But I don't hold it against anyone who does. So, please, stop trying to grind it into me. Maybe you could share it with someone who is in need of it. Truly . . . Oh, by the way, I'm a sister . . . not a brother :-)
Re: Religion
by apekun
God created us and there is no one above him. There is a spirtual world out there that we can't see. God is a spirit. We are all spirits that just temorarily live in our human bodies.
Re: Religion
by kcroyals
Good point about the timing of the science fiction. a burning bush and parting an ocean were pretty fantastic concepts back then. Thanks for posting somthing that was actually insightful. Did you notice that that one of the peopl basing you was named Apekun? Is that a misspelling of Ape Kin? Is he admitting evolution in some Freudian manner?
Re: Religion
by kcroyals
Yo are asking questions that will cause these intellectual midgets to implode! The right thing for you to do is leave them alone...nah keep asking 'em. :)
Re: Religion
by timetodowhatsright
There is a danger in saying what IS or IS NOT, rather than saying that I believe. One must be able to prove what is or is not. No one can argue with what you believe. Saying that your God is this or that is your belief. It is not a fact. I can argue it if you say it is a fact, I cannot argue it if you say it is what you believe . . . Many conflicts have arisen due to what people say IS when they can't prove it.
Re: Religion
by timetodowhatsright
Oh, kcroyals, you are naughty. Now that's not good. ;-). I hope you are from Kansas. That would tell me that not everyone from there (including me) is, um, uh, you know, that way . . . Oh, and I DID notice the name . . .
Re: Religion
by Alex Rapids

The Almighty referred to by timetodowhatsright obviously can't be explained in terms of what he/she/it is made of. But when this concept is though about a little bit it is not all that hard to grasp. There are many things which cannot be proven to exist. Rather, they are inferred because they must exist logically. Gravity cannot be observed directly, but its existance can be proven by its effects.

Matter must have been set in motion by something outside of matter due to the laws of the universe. But an Almighty would not necessarily have to be created to logically. What reason is there to believe that the thing that created matter must follow the same laws that the creation must follow.

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