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Democrats & Media make up your Mind!
by Therese in NV
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Just a few days ago, you were decrying Sarah Palin as being “inexperienced”; “A Hockey Mom”; a wife and mother obviously too stupid to do the job; the mother of an engaged daughter too inept for the position of VP. Now after seeing Sarah Palin’s obvious accomplishments, experience and “lipstick Bull-Dog” gusto; in the light of day; you’re worried she will outshine McCain. What a joke you are making of yourselves and your credibility. Anyone with open eyes can see these two compliment each other with their individual abilities and expertise!

Anyone who still believes the McCain/Palin team is more of the “Bush same”; are delusional or living in a perpetual state of denial. The team laid out Accountable reform policies in Energy, Foreign Trade Agreements, Health Care, their policy on ending the War in Iraq, using all natural resources the break foreign oil control on America. Additionally, this team gave specific deadlines such as 100 days from taking office; for all government bureaus’s to submit written detailed reports on waste spending. Senator McCain gave specific year deadlines when we can anticipate reform policies to be in full effect. If this is not “straight talk” policy outline and accountability, I don’t know what is. How can Senator McCain and Governor Palin accomplish this? Senator McCain has a proven record of reaching across the isles in the past affecting positive legislation reform. Governor Palin has balance multi billion dollars state budget and has used Veto to cut governmental waste.

If you want a real test of character, Senator McCain has visited the troops 8 times talking to the foot soldiers and officers, getting each soldiers hold on what needs to be done to end the war. Alternately, Senator Obama refused to visit the wounded soldiers in Germany without cameras in the hospital rooms. Senator Obama may have lined 20 officers up behind him on stage supporting him; alternately, Senator McCain didn’t need to do that. Everywhere the cameras spanned during the Republican convention were soldiers; from every branch, young, old, active and retired foot soldiers and officers. If that doesn’t convince the American people who the son’s and daughter are, and who they trust to finish winding down the War in Iraq, I don’t know what will.

Several errors
by blueshift

1) A single "Trailhead" post does not equal all liberals and media.

2) Outshining McCain has nothing to do with experience. It's about energy and the ability to give a rousing speech that excites people (at least the partisan base).

3) We don't have the natural resources in America to end dependence on foreign oil unless we drastically improve efficiencies and alternate energies.

4) Active duty soldiers favor Obama by 2:1

5) Obama never planned on cameras accompanying him to the hospital, only a single general that was considered to be campaign staff by the Pentagon. Obama canceled the trip when he realized it would be politicized.

6) "Wasteful spending" would not get close to closing the current budget gap, much less McCain's plans to extend the war or Bush's tax cuts.

Finally, I somehow missed all these accountable reform plans. I'm sure you can provide a link?

Re: Several errors
by entj4sure
I listened to his speech too. Vetoing every earmark won't make a dent in the national deficit.
Re: Several errors
by Greatbear452

Well said, Blueshift.

It's amazing that we're suddenly supposed to be impressed by all of Palin's "accomplishments" just because she made one snarky, sarcastic speech.

Her accomplishments seem to mainly consist of threatening to fire anyone who doesn't immediately give her what she wants.

Active Duty Soldiers Favor Obama 2:1?
by brewcrew2008

Just about every active duty military person I've met takes the merest criticism of W as fighting words; anecdotal yes, but 2:1? These guys tend to vote Republican.

Re: Active Duty Soldiers Favor Obama 2:1?
by Camera I

Palin's accomplishment as mayor was to raise taxes and leave her town with a massive long-term debt. I'm curious to see how she can be branded as a fiacal conservative but since her supporters are willing to say that Alaska's proximity to Russia counts as foreign policy experience I guess they'll believe anything.

Re: Active Duty Soldiers Favor Obama 2:1?
by blueshift
brewcrew2008:

Just about every active duty military person I've met takes the merest criticism of W as fighting words; anecdotal yes, but 2:1? These guys tend to vote Republican.

Hmm, I may have misremembered a stat since I can't pull up a link for this right away. There is this which I could use to argue means they support him 6:1.

Re: Democrats & Media make up your Mind!
by mithros

Therese in NV:
If you want a real test of character, Senator McCain has visited the troops 8 times

Um... The true test of character is the number of photo ops you have with the troops?

Turning down a trip home because there were other POWs who'd been their longer, that's character. Pointing out that the Republican party shouldn't be beholden to the interest of the intollerent religious right, that's character. Standing up for your opponent because he's been unfairly swiftboated, that's character.

John McCain had a hell of a lot of character. Hmm... Whatever happened to him anyway?

Re: Democrats & Media make up your Mind!
by Jiggs72

"The team laid out Accountable reform policies in Energy, Foreign Trade Agreements, Health Care, their policy on ending the War in Iraq, using all natural resources the break foreign oil control on America. "

I didn't hear a realistic plan for any of those things. Certainly not health care or ending teh war in Iraq! Not only that, but you have to explain how McCain, who has been in the Senate for 27 years is JUST NOW coming up with ideas on these issues!

Re: Active Duty Soldiers Favor Obama 2:1?
by NightSwimmer
brewcrew2008:

Just about every active duty military person I've met takes the merest criticism of W as fighting words; anecdotal yes, but 2:1? These guys tend to vote Republican.

Probably very anecdotal. I don't know how many "active duty military people" you know -- but I'm guessing not very many.

Most folks in the military don't care much for discussing politics, especially with civilians. They take orders, they don't have the luxury of considering whether they agree with the orders. They can get into serious trouble for being caught saying disparaging things about their Commander in Chief in public. You shouldn't ask them to do so.

Re: Democrats & Media make up your Mind!
by traysp

respect her hardly. A radio personality i heard this morning gave her a nickname that in my mind fits her perfectly that is caribou barbie. I am happy however that she pissed enough people off that the Obama campaign had a huge influx of donations in the 24 hours after her speech. Being sarcastic doesn't take a lot of intelligence. I also choose to not support anyone who tries to sue the goverment for putting the polar bears on the endangered species list. She is the governor of a state with very little population. That and being the mayor of a town of 9000 does not prepare her to be vice president of the united states. She is scarier to me than even Mcain. I am sorry but the lunatic fringe ultra conservatives would be the only people impressed by her lies and sarcasm.

Re: Democrats & Media make up your Mind!
by SalientMan

"Governor Palin has balance multi billion dollars state budget and has used Veto to cut governmental waste."

Easy to balance a multi-billion dollar state budget when your state is swimming in oil reserves and is also the BIGGEST per capita recipient of federal pork. Even AFTER Palin cut the amount of pork Alaska received, Alaskans still received $1.84 for every $1.00 of money they paid in taxes to the federal government. "cut governmental waste?" Please.

Re: Democrats & Media make up your Mind!
by piggyhew

As mayor she raised the citys sales tax to pay for a multi- use sports complex,that went over budget , that sports complex was more important to her than a libtary,so much for education i guess sports are more important than getting a good place for poor kids to go and look up information they need for class in school,and also it helps college classes.

Palin hired a lobbying firm of roberton,monagle&eastaugh to lobby for earmarks for wasilla she got 27 million i guess she was for earmarks befor she was against them.

In 2002 she supported dianne keller for mayor of wasilla against her moth-in- law.so much for family ties.

Macain better watch out , he needs to keep palin happy because if she get upset with him she will turn on him like she has so many other people ,she taks no very badly so he needs to keep her smileing.

As we all know ,bush is stubborn,and vengeanful when someone appose him,he thinks hes right on ever decision that he makes,thats why we are at war with ever one, not very many thinks well of the united states right now.

Palin seems to be the same as bush and macain, attack, attack, attack ,the #2meaning for attack is to use unfriendly or bitter words against some one else, she used her power as gov. to fire people , like the cook, the driver and god only knows who else, thease people need their jobs.

Re: Active Duty Soldiers Favor Obama 2:1?
by shaper079
NightSwimmer:
brewcrew2008:

Just about every active duty military person I've met takes the merest criticism of W as fighting words; anecdotal yes, but 2:1? These guys tend to vote Republican.

Probably very anecdotal. I don't know how many "active duty military people" you know -- but I'm guessing not very many.

Most folks in the military don't care much for discussing politics, especially with civilians. They take orders, they don't have the luxury of considering whether they agree with the orders. They can get into serious trouble for being caught saying disparaging things about their Commander in Chief in public. You shouldn't ask them to do so.

Military folks talk national politics more than you think. You are right they don't talk about it with civilians as much and they almost never identify themselves as military when they do.

I read the link someone posted and it is hardly a representative sample based on less than 2K contributors. Also as I stated many do not identify themselves as military when contributing. Further those numbers only tracked those contribution over $200.

I have no idea where the 2:1 number comes from. The military does not conduct political polls of it's members.

Re: Active Duty Soldiers Favor Obama 2:1?
by brewcrew2008
Again, I don't know - everything I've seen, including Democratic strategists on TV, tend to portray active military as leaning GOP. This election could be different, and would make a difference in FL (many active duty people claim residence there for taxation reasons).
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