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If 911 Was Not An Inside Job Then Answer the Following:
by ctcadguy
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Some Questions for people who believe this administration theory as to what occurred that day.

1. If fire can completely collapse a steel frame structure into its own footprint neatly cutting all the steel beams in nice small pieces that can be loaded on a truck - then why do Demolition Companies spend all that time and effort to wire-up a building full of explosives when all they need is a match?

2. If a hydrocarbon fire can melt steel then why do steel companies spend all that money on blast furnaces?

3. If cell phones work at 35,000 feet in an aircraft going over 500 mph, then why did Qualcomm and American airlines spend money to invent a system that would allow phone calls not to be dropped when cruising between cell towers in 2004 - 3 years after 911?

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Perhaps it is time to investigate this crime?

Re: If 911 Was Not An Inside Job Then Answer the Following:
by tubbs

It's been investigated. Why not deal with reality, which is scary enough, without bringing this paranoid stuff to the table.

We were attacked by Al Qaida on 9/11 who hijacked planes and crashed them into the World Trade Center.

This was not an attack by Saddam Hussein nor was it an inside job by the Bush administration.

As was comically made clear in South Park's Urinal Deuce episode, do you REALLY think the Bush Administration is capable of pulling off a hoax of this proportion? Wouldn't that make them the most diabolically ingenious administration in the history of. . . the world? Do you really think that the Bush adminsitration is that capable? Our economy suggests otherwise.

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report

Popular Mechanics examines the evidence and consults the experts to refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11.
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Published reports by the US National Institute of Standards and Technology rejected the controlled demolition hypothesis

The community of civil engineers generally accepts the mainstream account that the impacts of jets at high speeds in combination with subsequent fires, rather than controlled demolition, led to the collapse of the Twin Towers

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Re: Of course it was a 1993 & 911 M.E refugee Blk Theology
by lilmacg

hit job! All shaira and jiza welfare receiving M.E and African inner city refugees brought in by Un Foundation are changing our govt through blk mail CRA and Conyers Repearations for any of allah's soldiers or shoemakers or female self bombers to make their system work! to oppress the oppressed not in the Elite know!

hmm

A rare look at secretive Brotherhood in America
Muslims divided on Brotherhood
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A group aiming to create Islamic states worldwide has established roots here, in large part under the guidance of Egypt-born Ahmed Elkadi
By Noreen S. Ahmed-Ullah, Sam Roe and Laurie Cohen | Tribune staff reporters
September 19, 2004
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 next Over the last 40 years, small groups of devout Muslim men have gathered in homes in U.S. cities to pray, memorize the Koran and discuss events of the day.

But they also addressed their ultimate goal, one so controversial that it is a key reason they have operated in secrecy: to create Muslim states overseas and, they hope, someday in America as well.

These men are part of an underground U.S. chapter of the international Muslim Brotherhood, the world's most influential Islamic fundamentalist group and an organization with a violent past in the Middle East. But fearing persecution, they rarely identify themselves as Brotherhood members and have operated largely behind the scenes, unbeknown even to many Muslims.

Still, the U.S. Brotherhood has had a significant and ongoing impact on Islam in America, helping establish mosques, Islamic schools, summer youth camps and prominent Muslim organizations. It is a major factor, Islamic scholars say, in why many Muslim institutions in the nation have become more conservative in recent decades.


Leading the U.S. Brotherhood during much of this period was Ahmed Elkadi, an Egyptian-born surgeon and a former personal physician to Saudi Arabia's King Faisal. He headed the group from 1984 to 1994 but abruptly lost his leadership position. Now he is discussing his life and the U.S. Brotherhood for the first time.

His story, combined with details from documents and interviews, offers an unprecedented look at the Brotherhood in America: how the group recruited members, how it cloaked itself in secrecy and how it alienated many moderate Muslims.

Indeed, because of its hard-line beliefs, the U.S. Brotherhood has been an increasingly divisive force within Islam in America, fueling the often bitter struggle between moderate and conservative Muslims.

Many Muslims believe that the Brotherhood is a noble international movement that supports the true teachings of Islam and unwaveringly defends Muslims who have come under attack around the world, from Chechens to Palestinians to Iraqis. But others view it as an extreme organization that breeds intolerance and militancy.

"They have this idea that Muslims come first, not that humans come first," says Mustafa Saied, 32, a Floridian who left the U.S. Brotherhood in 1998.

While separation of church and state is a bedrock principle of American democracy, the international Brotherhood preaches that religion and politics cannot be separated and that governments eventually should be Islamic. The group also champions martyrdom and jihad, or holy war, as a means of self-defense and has provided the philosophical underpinnings for Muslim militants worldwide.

Many moderate Muslims in America are uncomfortable with the views preached at mosques influenced by the Brotherhood, scholars say. Those experts point to a 2001 study sponsored by four Muslim advocacy and religious groups that found that only a third of U.S. Muslims attend mosques.

In suburban Bridgeview, Ill., some moderates say they quit attending the Mosque Foundation because the leadership became too conservative and dominated by Brotherhood members.

Documents obtained by the Tribune and translated from Arabic show that the U.S. Brotherhood has been careful to obscure its beliefs from outsiders. One document tells leaders to be cautious when screening potential recruits. If the recruit asks whether the leader is a Brotherhood member, the leader should respond, "You may deduce the answer to that with your own intelligence."

Islamic state a long-term goal

Brotherhood members emphasize that they follow the laws of the nations in which they operate. They stress that they do not believe in overthrowing the U.S. government, but rather that they want as many people as possible to convert to Islam so that one day--perhaps generations from now--a majority of Americans will support a society governed by Islamic law. Muslims make up less than 3 percent of the U.S. population, but estimates of their number vary widely from 2 million to 7 million.

Federal authorities say they have scrutinized the U.S. Brotherhood for years. Agents currently are investigating whether people with ties to the group have raised and laundered money to finance terrorism abroad. No terrorism-related charges have been filed.

Former leader Elkadi, who has been questioned at length by federal authorities about the inner workings of the Brotherhood, says the group has served Muslims in the United States well. He personally helped establish an Islamic community in the Florida Panhandle, with a mosque, school and health clinic. And though he eventually lost it all--even his medical license--some Muslims still view him as a great Islamic leader.

"Islam is for everyone," he says. "It's good for America, good for Muslims too. . . . It's good knowledge, and good knowledge should be available to everyone."

Mohammed Mahdi Akef, head of the international Muslim Brotherhood, based in Egypt, lauds Elkadi and the activities of the U.S. Brotherhood.

"They have succeeded in saving the younger generations from melting into the American lifestyle without faith," he says. "They have saved their children."

Re: If 911 Was Not An Inside Job Then Answer the Following:
by Terrortoon

How can Bush put together such a massive effort as to destroy 3 buildings, the huge # of people that would have been in on the project, and the amount of resources required to pull it off, and yet can't even send a guy to Nigeria to check on Saddam trying to aquire yellowcake without it turning into a scandal.

Sorry guy, you are barking up the wrong straight jacket.

You're right toon, Bush is incapable of rational thought.
by DoctorTom

He's a dumb-shit who has totally fucked up every opportunity he's had - both in business and in politics.

I have to admit I was a bit surprised by seeing you admit it in writing.

Or, is this someone else who has stolen toon's identity?

Re: If 911 Was Not An Inside Job Then Answer the Following:
by syntax

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LMAO!! is this you cadboy? Hell, this is conclusive proof isn't it? I mean, you can see it right there in front of your eyes in living color!! This is just too funny!!

Re: If 911 Was Not An Inside Job Then Answer the Following:
by Rammah

I believe our fellow poster was referring,incompletely, to WT 7 rather than WT 1 and WT 2. The way that building dropped and the government bureaucrats that WERE NOT in it are, at least, a mystery. The timely vacancies in select offices bring to mind the VERY SAME phenomenon in The Murrah Bldg. in Oklahoma City. Also, there are material discrepancies in the way damage was supposedly inflicted and the visible damage to the structure itself, also hastily demolished and carted away a la The World Trade Center.

I disagree that the perpetrators were within The Malicious Idiot Administration. I DO believe that the oncoming known threat was stage managed for political advantage similar to the way Pearl Harbor was stage managed to suppress American popular resistance to another brou-ha-ha with Germany; Hence, saving Great Britain's butt, again. The consolidation and defense of Pacific Basin commercial interests were, and are, a beneficial "throw in".

What better way for an unqualified Resident to wrap himself in The Flag over his Organ Grinder's Monkey Uniform to shore up a laughably inept, crooked, joke reign early in it's painfully-obvious-to-all goofy existence, than to manage the context surrounding a known imminent threat that will replace public anger with public anxiety.

Suckers !

Re: If 911 Was Not An Inside Job Then Answer the Following:
by ctcadguy
Still waiting for an answer to my questions!
Re: You're right toon, Bush is incapable of rational thought.
by candoxx

After seeing the CIA's admissions on thier own website of what they did during the Cold War, and after seeing the evidence of what we did in Chili and Argintina, I am not even slightly of the opinion that we are incapable of such an operation...anyone who says such a thing is a lunatic!

Clearly, we have done far more complicated things than what occurred here on 9/11.

But there is no real evidence is all...it takes a world war to find such evidence, as in the case of the burning of the Reichstag, which precipitated Hitler's rise to power...that was an inside job, but it was not until we invaded and found the papers in classified sections that it could be proved.

The fact is that even without evidence of an inside job, Bush used 9/11, and the Cons used 9/11, and are STILL using 9/11 to do horrible things to us and to people all over the world...which was, of course, the whole point of 9/11 to them, in any case.

That fascists, right wingers, often resort to coercion in the form of trickery is nothing new...they seem to enjoy it; HItler used the burning of the Reichstag to accuse communists of doing it (which they did not) and then he rounded them up and sent them off to concentration camps for doing something they never did! Cons seem to really enjoy that sort of thing. Like with Saddam Hussein, they knew he had no weapons of mass destruction, but they slaughtered him anyway, and they know that Georgia invaded South Ossetia and slaughtered 1,400 people, but they enjoy pretending it ain't so.

Why is that? Are they devils from hell?? Or is it just that they dare not tell the public what they are planning for us, just as Hitler dared not tell Germans he was going to take them into a world war?

Re: If 911 Was Not An Inside Job Then Answer the Following:
by ctcadguy

To Tubbs - A little emotional are we?

Grow up!

The 2004 poll was conducted by telephone with 1024 adults nationwide in the US, with a 3% margin of error.[5] The 2006 poll was conducted by telephone on 983 randomly-selected citizens of the United States, with a 4% margin of error.[6] One of the questions was the following:

"When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?"
  • May 2002 responses: 21% said "telling the truth", 65% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 8% said they are "mostly lying", 6% not sure.
  • 3/30-4/1/04 CBS 24% said "telling the truth", 58% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 14% said they are "mostly lying", 4% not sure.
  • 4/8/04 CBS 21% said "telling the truth", 66% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 10% said they are "mostly lying", 4% not sure.
  • 4/23-27/04 24% said "telling the truth", 56% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 16% said they are "mostly lying", 4% not sure.
  • Oct 2006 responses: 16% said "telling the truth", 53% said they are "mostly telling the truth but hiding something", 28% said they are "mostly lying", 3% not sure.

Notice the trend over time - your in the minority if you believe that 19 college age Arabs with boxcutters who could barely pilot a Cessna did this.

Your in Denial - Grow up already!

Famous American False Flag Incidents that started Wars - Remeber the Maine (Spanish American War. and Gulf of Tomkin (Vietnam). Many think Pearl Harbor as well.

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