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Tim Noah, Ignoramus
by Scrootaype
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In an attempt to brand Gov. Palin as a hypocrite, Mr. Noah managed to find some convenient statistics at the Census Bureau about significantly higher fed spending per capita in AK vs. various states.

Answer: Well, Duh! Anyone who knows anything about Alaska at all would find this piece laughable. But then again, how could Tim know something about a place not served by Acela.

I submit two websites Noah conveniently overlooked:

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and

U.S. Census Compendium of Public Employment

The first clearly shows how Alaska is overwhelmingly federal lands - a crazy quilt of myriad federal departments and branches of military, not to mention the great majority of U.S. coastline in the U.S. The map clealry shows how urban areas in Alaska are basically islands in a sea of federal protection and ownership.

The second link, if one is brave enough to open the .pdf and hunt, clealry shows Alaska's FEDERAL EMPLOYMENT per 10,000 population is bested only by D.C. and Virginia.

So let's sum up - Alaska is an ocean of federal land ownership, leases, regulations, restrictions, etc. with islands of private ownership. The vast majority of private enterprise in AK is strongly affected by and, frankly, hindered by the Feds - greatly natural resources - or reliant on the Feds for infrastructure due the great distances between the urbanized islands. And then again, if you're publicly employed, chances are Uncle Sam is your boss.

Please, Tim, do your homework before gloating. Alaska secede? Ha! Alaska couldn't afford to pay the rent.

Re: Tim Noah, Ignoramus
by Anse

So this explains why the small town of Wasilla, Alaska, population less than 9,000, got $27 million in federal tax dollars?

Okay. Whatever you say.

Re: Tim Noah, Ignoramus
by Scrootaype

I'd be willing to be that if you checked that earmark, the vast majority was for a regional rail line from Wasilla to Girdwood - with Anchorage right in the middle. It wasn't for Wasilla alone - it was meant to benefit the State's population base in the general Anchorage area.

Gosh I'd like my railroads fixed too!
by GETASHRUBERY
Let the RED states break even with their tax dollars. Stop shipping NYS dollars out of state, then we will see who is really "conservative"
Re: Tim Noah, Ignoramus
by sfdog
If you look at the chart linked to in the article it accounts for this discrepency by breaking out salaries, retirement and procurement. The third segment of each bar marked "grants" is the best indicator of pork barrel spending and Alaska's is by far the largest, with only Wyoming even coming close. It is also worth noting that the Alaska state government spends about $14,000 per Alaskan which is four times what Illinois spends (see Todays NYTimes article). Palin can hardly claim to be for small government and lower government spending. She just wants someone else to pay for it.
Re: Tim Noah, Ignoramus
by irvingchang

hey retard. these figures represent dispersement of fed spending such as highway funds. that spending is based on a formula that considers population and land area as the variables. this formula has been in effect since those departments were formed by the fed gubmint.

naturally, large states with small poplations will be at the top of the list.

do you enjoy being ignorant?

Re: Gosh I'd like my railroads fixed too!
by irvingchang

'Let the RED states break even with their tax dollars. Stop shipping NYS dollars out of state, then we will see who is really "conservative"'

so you resent 'your' money being spent to 'subsidize' persons who you don't think deserve it?

heck. we may make a conservative out of you yet.

Re: Tim Noah, Ignoramus
by icemilkcoffee
Scrootaype:

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The first clearly shows how Alaska is overwhelmingly federal lands - a crazy quilt of myriad federal departments and branches of military, not to mention the great majority of U.S. coastline in the U.S. The map clealry shows how urban areas in Alaska are basically islands in a sea of federal protection and ownership.

The second link, if one is brave enough to open the .pdf and hunt, clealry shows Alaska's FEDERAL EMPLOYMENT per 10,000 population is bested only by D.C. and Virginia.

So let's sum up - Alaska is an ocean of federal land ownership, leases, regulations, restrictions, etc. with islands of private ownership. The vast majority of private enterprise in AK is strongly affected by and, frankly, hindered by the Feds - greatly natural resources - or reliant on the Feds for infrastructure due the great distances between the urbanized islands. And then again, if you're publicly employed, chances are Uncle Sam is your boss.

Please, Tim, do your homework before gloating. Alaska secede? Ha! Alaska couldn't afford to pay the rent.

That may explain the bloated federal expenditure per capita. But that doesn't explain the fact that Alaska also gets the most earmark spending per capita.

Re: Tim Noah, Ignoramus
by irvingchang
'Palin actually reduced the state government's requests for special projects this year to 31 earmarks totaling $198 million, about $295 person, in the wake of President Bush's demand for a cutback in earmarks.

The state government's earmark requests to Congress in her first year in office exceeded $550 million, more than $800 per resident. But there's only so much Palin could do with state bureaucrats used to a free-flowing spigot of federal dollars from Washington.'

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from today's wapo. slate's parent compamy.

Re: Tim Noah, Ignoramus
by KevDurden
So she's a reformer when President Bush tells her to be? How noble.
Re: Tim Noah, Ignoramus
by irvingchang

'So she's a reformer when President Bush tells her to be? How noble.'

hey stupid. you, that dumb cunt nancy pelosi and that shitferbrains harry reid have been running things the whole time she has been governor.

if you have a problem with how the federal money goes to alaska. may i suggest you take it up with those morons?

sorry, i forgot. they don't listen to you either.

Re: Gosh I'd like my railroads fixed too!
by GETASHRUBERY
Irving I am a Fiscal conservative. I lost interest in the GOP when they started kissing Reagan's Ass as a "Conservative" also I saw the GOP presidents ran up debt faster than Democratic ones.
Re: Gosh I'd like my railroads fixed too!
by irvingchang

'I lost interest in the GOP when they started kissing Reagan's Ass as a "Conservative" also I saw the GOP presidents ran up debt faster than Democratic ones.'

your full of shit. chumps like yourself never ever worry about any stupid debt until someone mentions a tax cut. then you miraculously get religion when it comes to deficits.

I WANT BALANCE, IF IT TAKES TAXES
by GETASHRUBERY

OR FORCED SAVINGS THEN SO BE IT!

Now propose a workable method to to bring back fiscal sanity, Or take a large cup of STFU

If what I said was in error point it out! Or UR fulovit
by GETASHRUBERY
The GOP is the debt engine, now we are paying for their insolvency ( and will keep on paying)
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