What is NOT OK is to be a teenage mom who indulged in sexual intimacy while unmarried (so says God many times in the Bible, such as 1 Corinthians 6:9). Perhaps young women who think they are being "judged" are missing the point that millions of people--who try their best to live God's way--are just trying to make it understood that fornication is a serious sin against God . . . and people should wait until they are married before having God's blessing of husband-and-wife sexual intimacy. Anyone who fornicates can be forgiven, of course, but only if they confess their sin to God and are truly sorry; are baptized into Christ; and TURN AWAY from the sin. God loves everyone, but He does NOT condone sin. His word--which has existed for at least 6000 years--says so, time and time again. In fact Jesus Himself said, "If you love me, keep My commandments, just as I love My Father and keep His commandments" (book of Matthew). Enough said; there is no clearer way to say it. --Submitted respectfully

The nuts are out again. Yeesh.

I hope AugustAlley deals with you personally.

aerospacemajor:

In fact Jesus Himself said, "If you love me, keep My commandments,

Hmm. Jesus said that, "'Love your neighbor as yourself", which by both masturbating and having sexual relations I've done. In fact, that means that by loving other people, a young person who gives sexual pleasure is more closely fallowing what Jesus said than some stuck up prude....

First off, I really do not think you have anything to do with aerospace.

Second off, your God is not the only God around. Your religion is not the only religion in town.

Third, who the fuck says fornicate nowadays?

actually, it's NOT ok to be a teenage mom. no teenager, and i mean NONE, are capable of rearing a child. in fact, i consider it to be blatant child abuse to allow a child to raise another one. it's disgusting. if these girls are adverse to abortion, then they should be forced to either give their children up for adoption or forced to sign over rights to an adult in their family that will supervise their child rearing. but to think that a young girl with no high school education can rear a productive member of society is misgusded. there are always exceptions, but for the most part, that's the rule.

Aerospacemajor,

I agree that sex should be saved until marriage and having sex before marriage is sin.

That said, this woman never said that she is a follower of Christ, therefore can not and should not be judged for something that she did eleven years ago. She said that she and her husband got married and have other children now and are living a happy life together. Good for her. She has already outlasted fifty percent of Christian marriages that end in divorce. God saw fit to bless her with a gift in her first born dispite her sin. Just as God has blessed you dispite any sin you have committed. And since when is her sin any more unfavorable than that of you and me? As a matter of fact, we, as christians, are held to a higher standard because we know the truth and have committed to make Jesus the Lord of our lives, which includes living a righteous life. A life that no one can achieve alone, but by the Grace of God, we are made holy. To use your method of bible quoting... " "There is no one righteous, not even one" Romans 3:10. This means even you and me. In Romans 6:23 it says "For the wages of sin is death..." This explains what we deserve... Death. Ephesians 2:8-9 says "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast." Again this is to show you that you have done nothing to deserve salvation, you have not been good enough, you can not earn your way into heaven. It does not matter what you do or don't do, Grace is your salvation. All you need is to believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, that He came to earth born of a virgin (who by the way was an unwed mother), and that he came to pay the penalty for your sin, death on the cross, a blood sacrifice, so that you would not have to live in eternal hell, but could have everlasting life with Him.

If you have any other scathing judgements to hand out, start by looking at the log in your own eye.

well luvpumpkns your WRONG and you also contradicted yourself. In one sentence you say that " no teenage, and i mean NONE, are capable of rearing a child." and then the end of your post says " there are always exceptions". By your post along with your misspelled words I take it that you are not very educated. I on the other hand, do have a college education and so does my 22 year old son that I had when I was 15. Oh, and my 18 year old also is in college. Wake up sunshine. Not all TEENAGE MOTHERS ARE CHILD ABUSERS AS YOU STATE. You are truly a waste to our society!

Aerospace,

I vaguely remember something about judging being between God and the person in the bible, no one else need to be involved. Also, how do you know that she hasn't confessed her sins, been baptised, turned away from it and all that? You are doing exactly what is bothering her, instantly judging her without sitting down and having a nice discussion about her life, if she felt like doing so.

luvpumpkns:

actually, it's NOT ok to be a teenage mom. no teenager, and i mean NONE, are capable of rearing a child. in fact, i consider it to be blatant child abuse to allow a child to raise another one. it's disgusting. if these girls are adverse to abortion, then they should be forced to either give their children up for adoption or forced to sign over rights to an adult in their family that will supervise their child rearing. but to think that a young girl with no high school education can rear a productive member of society is misgusded. there are always exceptions, but for the most part, that's the rule.

Then you should be disgusted with your own ancestors. For a long time the marrying age was 14. Not saying that 14 is a good age now, but if 14 year old women managed to raise my ancestors I do believe that a 16 year old is capable of doing it as well.

PG, love your logic! :)

at some point, someone had to have sex before marriage because sex is older than marriage. In other words, it's a good damn thing they fornicated or we wouldn't exist to condemn them.

& If I recall correctly, Mary wasn't married when she "got" pregnant with Jesus.

dumb_blonde:

& If I recall correctly, Mary wasn't married when she "got" pregnant with Jesus.

Mary was also (at least so tradition has it) a teenage mother.

i misspelled one word, which was a typo. i always love when people have to resort to policing my typing because they can't come up with a logical argument. you may have been a teenage mother that now has children in college, but that doesnt mean you didn't make a hell of a lot of mistakes raising them that you wouldn't have made at 25 or 30. this may piss you off, but i don't think you were fit to raise children at 15. no 15 year old is. and i could really care less if you disagree with that. i have seen too many teenage mothers drop out of high school and not go to college because they want to marry their high school sweetheart and live out their dollhouse fantasy like an 8 year old. 99% of the time, their children suffer severe damage from this kind of parenting.

in relation to my ancestors, let's get real here. people 500 years ago only lived to be 30, tops. which means they had to have children at 14, or you and i wouldn't be here today. anyhow, based on this kind of logic, all women these days should be waiting until 40 to give birth, because they live to see 80 on a fairly regular basis.

oh, and cubby? speaking of being under-educated.....i think you meant 'you're', not 'your'. if i were you, i'd closely review my grammar before criticizing others. i hit the wrong key spelling misguided. you, on the other hand, can't seem distinguish between the possessives and contractions. maybe you were at home raising a child when they covered that in english class. you prove my point marvelously, though.