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More Clintonian Entitlement
by EarlyBird
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I understand that the Hillary supporters feel like they lost a very close nomination process. That's painful. Hillary just barely lost.

But she did, after all, lose.

What's with the sense of hurt and betrayal by the Hillarians? Sorry ladies, but no, Obama does not have to treat Hillary with kid gloves. He doesn't have to genuflect or call her personally to explain that he isn't going to her and Bill on his ticket. There is no special treatment for coming in a really close second place. He doesn't have to do a damn thing.

Her supporters are displaying the very sense of entitlement which Hillary and Billy Boy have displayed throughout their entire adult lives. It's disgusting.

If anyone is going to be bitter it should be Obama at the way Hillary ran her campaign, sliming him from South Carolina onward. A lot of the image problems he has with undecided voters right now has to do with Hillary's attacks, which McCain is currently using to full advantage in ads against Obama.

If Hillary and Billy Boy wants their "legacy" they'd better cheer up real quick, start kissing Obama's soon-to-be-presidential ass, and tell her cult to do the same and vote for Obama.

Re: Get yourself a pundit's job!
by Miande
This is the most incisive, clear-headed statement about the Clintonian narcissism I have read anywhere. I hope people get the message!!
Denial is a river down Main Street
by gala1

I suggest that you step away from the computer and drive about three hundred miles in any direction to the whatever small town you hit.

There you will find out exactly why Obama's butt may end up being many things, but presidential is not ever going to be one of them. Because you have a small problem. He's not going to get a majority of the votes in a majority election. No matter how much you want him to.

What are Obamabots like you going to do for the next four McCain years?

Besides blame Hillary.

Here's how it is going end up.

Obama is not going to win. By a wide enough margin that will make the party disinclined to try this silly marketing idea any more. Hillary will run again.

She'll win. And her VP, undecided until the very end, will very likely be: Colin Powell.

-gala1

A Superbowl Analogy
by LeRoy_Was_Here

A few years back, the Tennessee Titans lost to the St. Louis Rams in the Superbowl, in what must have been a heartbreaking way to all the Tennessee Titan fans. They were poised at the St. Louis 1-yard line, ready to punch the ball in for the winning touchdown, when time ran out.

Heart-breaking!

Now, imagine if the Tennessee Titans football team, and the entire organization, had thrown a monumental hissy fit, and said "We're not gonna play next year!! We're gonna stay home! This game was soooooooo unfair!!"

Just imagine what people would have thought of them then.

That is pretty much what people are thinking of these rabid (a good and descriptive word in this context) Hillary partisans.

Projections Continue To Show Obama Electoral Victory.
by LeRoy_Was_Here

Obama has 260 electoral votes in states that are either solidly Dem or leaning Dem. He needs 270 to win. McCain has about 190 electoral votes in states solidly or leaning Republican. He needs 80 electoral votes to win. McCain would need to win every one of the seven states currently considered 'tossups'. Obama needs to win only one.

Those are the facts, ma'am.

You can chew on 'em until November, if you want.

Re: Denial is a river down Main Street
by dbguy
gala1:

I suggest that you step away from the computer and drive about three hundred miles in any direction to the whatever small town you hit.

There you will find out exactly why Obama's butt may end up being many things, but presidential is not ever going to be one of them. Because you have a small problem. He's not going to get a majority of the votes in a majority election. No matter how much you want him to.

What are Obamabots like you going to do for the next four McCain years?

Besides blame Hillary.

Here's how it is going end up.

Obama is not going to win. By a wide enough margin that will make the party disinclined to try this silly marketing idea any more. Hillary will run again.

She'll win. And her VP, undecided until the very end, will very likely be: Colin Powell.

-gala1

I've got news for you, Kreskin. Colin Powell is a) a republican and b) without credibility after shilling for the Bush administration at the U.N.

Actually, now that I think about it, sounds just right for HIllary's running mate.

Re: Denial is a river down Main Street
by gala1

The POINT is that Colin Powell is a republican, dear. It is called a bi-partisan ticket

And that he is far more highly respected, credible and accomplished than Obama. He is also far less iconic of division.

Why you expect the general public to go for someone promoted unity who shattered his own party rather than rationally control his ego, is why there is no trying to reason with Obamabots. Fortunately, election day should prove the point to you. But then, of course you'll spend the next four years blaming Hillary.

Who should introduce Colin Powell on Day One of her campaigning to make all the Obama mess blow away.

And you better hope McCain doesn't think of that first,as rumored, because then Obama can kiss a whole lot of his putative support right there. It would be nice to see the first black president stand for something more than a marketing ploy and have something to show other than a lifetime accretion of government grant entitlements.

Somehow you are expecting all those who Obama pushed aside so he could fast track his gravy train to be willing to vote for him. Dream on.

-gala1

Re: Projections Continue To Show Obama Electoral Victory.
by gala1

and 105 votes in states too close to call, you conveniently forgot to mention.

Along with Obama's count is sinking as McCain is rising.

when your numbers are dropping DURING the convention, gee, may be that isn't such a great sign

McCain/Powell WOULD Beat Obama/Biden.
by LeRoy_Was_Here
Fortunately (for America), it ain't gonna happen.
Obama Likely Needs 10 Of Those 105 Votes.
by LeRoy_Was_Here

While McCain needs more like 80 of them.

I have seen no evidence that Obama's numbers are dropping 'DURING the convention'. This is only the second day of the convention. Was there a new poll released this morning. The most recent poll I heard of still has Obama ahead by five points, a statistically significant margin. [The error on the poll was plus or minus three percent.]

By all means, let's see the polling evidence you're talking about.

Some of us think you are just talking through your hat. Or, as they say down in Texas, you are 'all hat and no cattle'.

Re: More Clintonian Entitlement
by Kit-Kat
EarlyBird, that is a great statement of the issue. In every presidential primary, there is only one winner and lots of losers, and generally speaking, the losers don't get special treatment. They are expected to get over it and support the party's candidate. I just don't get why some of Clinton's supporters think she is, and they are, entitled to special treatment.
Re: Denial is a river down Main Street
by ChristineATL

Yes, we would blame Hillary...for campaigning against Obama as if he were an adversary, not an opponent... for elevating McCain over her co-Democrat and Senator, and for not stepping aside to support Obama much earlier after the primary ended.

As for next time-- all her spiteful supporters, small-town racist supporters, and her blame-Obama-for-all--things-se­xist supporters will not be enough for her to win unless Obama supporters are behind her.

And that time around, the hypocritical GOP won't be as complimentary toward Hillary as they have been this week.

But we'll give her the benefit of the doubt and see how sincere she is tonight and going forward and if her supporters decide the follow suit. If they do, she'll be guaranteed unified support for her future political ambitions.

Colin Powell should run for President, not as a token VP. He's capable of much more.

Why They Are Entitled To 'Special' Treatment.
by LeRoy_Was_Here

Kit-Kat: I just don't get why some of Clinton's supporters think she is, and they are, entitled to special treatment.

LeRoy: Well, because! Just because! Because they are, you know, special!

And if you just can't commiserate with that (sniff!), why, I think they'll just have to (sniff!) retire to the other room (sniff!), with the vapors!

We ladies have always depended on the kindness of strangers!

And that Obama, ugh! He's such a monster! He is not very kind, not letting us win, and he's strange! His skin is certainly a strange color, don't you think? And that just simply cannot be right! It's just not right, not letting us win!

Re: Denial is a river down Main Street
by EarlyBird

It's going to be very close, but I still believe Obama will win.

I'm not an Obamabot, by the way, but an Obamacon, a conservative Republican who is going to vote for Obama. There are a lot of people like me who will make the difference this year.

I'm going to find a way to come back to you, Gala, after November, and see which of us needs to eat crow.

Re: Denial is a river down Main Street
by EarlyBird
Powell is far too decent a human being to want to have anything to do with the Clintons.
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