I have largely not watched the Democratic Convention for the obvious reason that I am not a fan of redundance. Obama was and is the nominee-end of story. Though I have gathered together the spin of the various "news," and propaganda networks, and I have just one question for fellow Democrats: How are we not pounding McCain like a Baghdad neighborhood?! The Democratic Convention was never about Hillary Clinton, and her acolytes inability to understand that "the black guy won!" It was the convention that was supposed to annoint Obama with the leadership of the party, and subsequently unite all Democrats against the common enemy: John McCain and his military-industrial backers. I don't care that McCain is a war-hero, we need to pull a Karl Rove on this one, and pull out the stops on the flip-flopper issue. Hey, Americans are dumb, if it worked once-lets try it again. Johnny McCain, the "maverick," is backed by some of the most repulsive aspects of the Republican party---someone needs to play the pitbull and tear his campaign to pieces. Paging Joe Biden!

As for the Hillary acolytes, I know that they feel slighted, but they need to get over it. It was Senator Clinton's campaign to lose, and, unfortunately, hubris takes many forms. Her advisors, coupled with Bill Clinton's verbal diarrhea, didn't realize the momentum of the Obama campaign until it was too late. Conventional wisdom states that eventually they will come home to roost, that they will vote according to their interests instead of spite. Let's hope so, otherwise we will fall deeper into the abyss.

Remember Democrats! McCain is the enemy! So, vote for the black guy! He actually knows what he is talking about.

Obamaborg! The Democratic Convention was never about Hillary Clinton, and her acolytes inability to understand that "the black guy won!"

Calling Clinton supporters racist is only . . . going . . . to . . . lose . . . Obama . . . whatever Clinton supporters Hillary's and Bill's convention speeches gained him.

The reason that to date the convention has been all about Bill and Hillary is because Hillary won EIGHTEEN MILLION votes, which is half of the democrats that voted in the nomination process and those 18 mil. ARE NOT Obama groupies. Half of those 18 million, in fact, are seriously considering voting for McCain, and without those PUMAs, OBAMA CANNOT WIN.

Now, little brain, do you UNDERSTAND why the Clintons where such major issues at this convention? Obama went into the convention a crippled candidate due to the REAL split in the party. The Clintons were given the task BY Obama and his advisors to do their best to fix this. They then did their very best.

Now and ONLY NOW has Obama got something even close to a unified party to work with. So you go ahead and keep playing the race card on Clinton voters and see just what the fuck happens to that shaky unity.

harryk316:

I have largely not watched the Democratic Convention for the obvious reason that I am not a fan of redundance. Obama was and is the nominee-end of story. Though I have gathered together the spin of the various "news," and propaganda networks, and I have just one question for fellow Democrats: How are we not pounding McCain like a Baghdad neighborhood?! The Democratic Convention was never about Hillary Clinton, and her acolytes inability to understand that "the black guy won!" It was the convention that was supposed to annoint Obama with the leadership of the party, and subsequently unite all Democrats against the common enemy: John McCain and his military-industrial backers. I don't care that McCain is a war-hero, we need to pull a Karl Rove on this one, and pull out the stops on the flip-flopper issue. Hey, Americans are dumb, if it worked once-lets try it again. Johnny McCain, the "maverick," is backed by some of the most repulsive aspects of the Republican party---someone needs to play the pitbull and tear his campaign to pieces. Paging Joe Biden!

As for the Hillary acolytes, I know that they feel slighted, but they need to get over it. It was Senator Clinton's campaign to lose, and, unfortunately, hubris takes many forms. Her advisors, coupled with Bill Clinton's verbal diarrhea, didn't realize the momentum of the Obama campaign until it was too late. Conventional wisdom states that eventually they will come home to roost, that they will vote according to their interests instead of spite. Let's hope so, otherwise we will fall deeper into the abyss.

Remember Democrats! McCain is the enemy! So, vote for the black guy! He actually knows what he is talking about.

"McCain is the enemy!"?

I guess you forgot to add "G-d DAMN America!"

OOooooh! We're real scared! Yeah, the Hillary supporters are going to defect to McCain en masse, and even re-register as Republicans. Maybe they'll start sending their kids to Liberty University too!

No, luckily, most Hillary supporters aren't as petty, small, vindictive, childlish, spoiled sports or cry babies as to hand the election to McCain, whose policies are the polar opposite of what they support. In other words, they're adults and have swamped the children among them.

You idiot! There are no enemies here. There are opponents from opposing political philosophies. If you want enemies, go to Africa or other places where the oppostion parties put their lives on the line to oppose the powers.

Cretins like you give sleezy politics a bad name.

Or rather, what McCain represents, the military-industrial complex and four more years of Bush. We simply can't afford those things, and for that reason, McCain needs to be defeated.

Go, Obama!

Demcon:

Obamaborg! The Democratic Convention was never about Hillary Clinton, and her acolytes inability to understand that "the black guy won!"

Calling Clinton supporters racist is only . . . going . . . to . . . lose . . . Obama . . . whatever Clinton supporters Hillary's and Bill's convention speeches gained him.

Who's calling Clinton supporters "racist?" The party's together, and we're rolling on against McCain now. It's not about Hillary anymore, get it?

The reason that to date the convention has been all about Bill and Hillary is because Hillary won EIGHTEEN MILLION votes, which is half of the democrats that voted in the nomination process and those 18 mil. ARE NOT Obama groupies. Half of those 18 million, in fact, are seriously considering voting for McCain, and without those PUMAs, OBAMA CANNOT WIN.

Nonsense. The notion that half of HIllary's voters would vote McCain is utterly absurd. I would doubt if more than 1 or 2% would do so, at worst. And if they would, they werent' real Democrats to start with.

Now, little brain, do you UNDERSTAND why the Clintons where such major issues at this convention? Obama went into the convention a crippled candidate due to the REAL split in the party. The Clintons were given the task BY Obama and his advisors to do their best to fix this. They then did their very best.

Of course they were major issues, but they've thrown their support behind Obama, so we're moving on.

Now and ONLY NOW has Obama got something even close to a unified party to work with. So you go ahead and keep playing the race card on Clinton voters and see just what the fuck happens to that shaky unity.

The whole notion of "playing the race card" was overstated to begin with, so I see no reason to continue to bring it up. Rather than vain threats, you'd do better to just pull for Obama and get over yourself.

McCain isn't "America," even if he's a "war hero."

FYI

For a large part the idea of PUMA hate only exists in anonomous posts on message boards. It is easy to feel big and powerful when you act tough and do not bother to back up your opinions, but most supporters of the democratic party and the democratic nominee will not be swayed by your outward hatred.

I have said before and will say again, the majority of people posting under the auspices of being a PUMA are republican plants.

There will be a small minority (although vocal) of democrats who will not vote for Obama under any cirqumstances. But then again in any election there is a small majority of the party that dislikes the candidate and will not vote for them. They would have existed if Clinton was the nominee, and most likely in an equal number.

The power the PUMA campaign holds is mostly a false sense of importance. Just ask the republican organizer.

McCain wants you to pick cotton on his plantation while he sodomizes your wife.

He wants your children to starve while he feeds prime rib to his dogs.

He wants you to suffer and die in Iran so that the oil companies can become more obscenely rich than they already are.

He wants to wipe his ass with the Constitution, send your job to China, take away your ability to see a doctor, spit in Russia's eye and dare them to bomb us.

I don't see why anyone supporting Obama should have to have stupid Rev. Wright's words tossed at them.

McCain is the enemy, the enemy of working Americans, but he's now the darling prince of the super-rich crowd because he wants to continue the Bush tax breaks for them.

And about all of this attack on Obama as not "being ready" to lead, I would ask anyone who can put aside their emotions for a moment to see clearly enough to understand why the McCain camp has invested everything in the "inexperienced" line: John McCain is an old guy, one who looks much older than he is, and he's often made speeches to half-empty halls while Obama is younger, more energetic, and attracts huge crowds. What can this tired old half-been, re-hashing Bush's failed economic policies, DO, except tout his experience and claim his opponent is not ready to lead?

Really, what else can he do? He's not going to balance the budget or put Americans back to work, he's not going to eliminate the tax giveaways to the overprivileged and cut the tax bite on hard-pressed citizens, he's not going to put Social Security or Medicare on solid financial footing, and he's not going to do ANYTHING realistic to help the millions of Americans who can't get the medical care they need...so what can he do but say the younger guy is "inexperienced"?

So we should take it all with a grain of salt. The bottom line is that whether we accept the fact or not, elections determine government policies and priorities for the near future, and McCain's regurgitated "Bushonomics" doesn't influence this Independent at all, so I'm voting for Obama, even though I break out in chuckles every time I see his big ears. When we enter the polling place to vote, it's not about personalities or looks or anything ephemeral, and those who reduce it to that level have only themselves to blame when the failed policies of the Shrub and his spin-off McCain puts them over the barrel. I'm an old white guy, a veteran, and been voting all my life, and I now see that there are no surprises for me in how self-harming most voters can be toward their own interests. They allow themselves to be guided strictly by emotions and give common sense and reason a boot out the window. Meanwhile, the rich keep getting richer and the middle class shrinks to the expanding poverty class.

Way to go, you slogan-slingers!

"Tax Giveaways". That's a give-a-way itself. That money is mine! IT's not yours or the frigging government's. They should tax us as lightly as possible for the essential functions of the federal operations - NO MORE. That doesn't include taking my hard earned money and giving it to some slob who screwed around in school, dropped out, can't do anything but flip burgers, etc. You GD lefties are real good about being generous with other people's money. If you're so damn set on giving money away, give away your own money!