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2 F**ked up things...
by William Diaz
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I couldnt even ge through the recap today, 2 things, maybe 3 stopped me.

1) The mother of an olymic gold medal winner couldnt wathc him wrestle, because she couldnt get a passport. My own wife was trapped outside of the country, even though she has a passport and visa to be here. Thats how fucked up we are as a nation.

2) The Taliban killed some paratroopers of French origin. Being that they were described as 'some of the best in the world', chances are they are Legion Etranger. A bunch of years ago, they were killing Spetznaz, who aside from the guys in the IDF at that time (mid 80's), were the best soldiers in the world. Thats how fucked up the West is, to not realize that what makes them dangerous is they believe and are willing to die for their beliefs. They dont need supply chains, they dont need 3C, they dont need electronics at all (except to shoot down planes and helicopters). They believe, and unless you can make accomodation with such people, someone will die, either you or them. I suggest we talk with them.

PS I am a former paratrooper myself, spent some time doing stuff on Smokebomb hill and back in my day I would gladly have fought a duel to the death with anyone who suggested they were tougher than I.

3) The only good news I saw was that Obama might make Hillary the VP. That is the right thing to do, IMO. Let the Clintons (they are a package deal, btw) clean up the mess and leave Obama for the spiritual healing of our battered nation

Re: 2 F**ked up things...
by CrimeANitly
Just what is it that you think THE CLINTONS can do to clean up the mess? Hillary wants more wars. What mess, exactly, will that be cleaning up? Keep our troops over there, let the illegals get our Social Security and let us support a family of 3 to 12 or more after they drop their anchor babies? Keep the borders wide open so any terrorist can just walk on in? Yeah, sure.
Re: 2 F**ked up things...
by Prairieman
At London Heathrow the security man asked a young woman just in front of me: "So I see you are 18 years old. Does that make you a legal adult in the USA with all privileges?"

"Yes," said the young woman, "except that I cannot buy alcoholic beverages."

"You mean your country can send you to fight in wars all over the world but you cannot buy a beer?" asked the agent.

"Yes, that is the law."

Passport stamped with vigor, then "Next."
Re: 2 F**ked up things...
by LEERO
Diaz - You mentioned twice how F**&%D up the west is. Please consider the East for yourself. What Really is F*&^*D up is that you imply that the mother should be here. She can get a Passport, she just has to move back to Mexico and apply for one. She is ILLEGAL, she doesn't belong here. I don't care if her son won gold, we don't sell out for gold. Anyway, wouldn't it be great for that gold to be Mexico's (or wherever) I don't understand how you can be against military "bad-asses", we need them even more, and isn't that what solders do, die for their beliefs?
Re: 2 F**ked up things...
by William Diaz

LEERO,

I was a soldier. I am willing and was willing to die for my beliefs. Moreover, due to being both Airborne and Infantry, I was demonstrably facile with all the skills necessary to kill as well.

I am ashamed that I cannot say to someone, that my nation does not torture. That anyone else does, is immaterial. I have no control and no claim to actions of others, just my own. I would not fight, die nor kill for the nation of my birth as it stands now.

Lets turn that on its head for a moment. If those people are willing to fight and kill for what they believe, we need to respect that and find a way to understand what they believe and accomodate that, or blood will be shed. We can either fight and lose (despite the valor of the brothers and sisters of mine that yet serve), or understand, make peace and win.

And to the other guy, Bill (and Hillary) took a huge recession and turned it into the biggest economic boom we have had, because Bill understands that doing the right thing is not the same as being right. Sticking your dick in some chick is not an issue of right and wrong, I am sorry to say. If I was the most powerful man in the world, I would politely ask for volunteers so I could spend much of my day and make all my most important decisions in a waist high pile of beautiful naked women.

Have a great day!

Re: 2 F**ked up things...
by Tyrtaios-rising

Greetings William Diaz. You'll recall a few years back, the Taliban uncoverd a Navy Spec Warfare Team (SEAL). These things happen - lessons are learned, tactics evolve, etc., though I found the news unpleasant myself, for personal reasons.

As for our INS branch? The whole lash-up is staffed with incompetents whose resumes' were passed over by all other government agencies. General Joe Stilwell would have marched-em out under the triple canopy and shot them all!

Don't give-up the faith just yet - - Toujours Fidele

Re: 2 F**ked up things...
by William Diaz

Hail Brother!

Yes, I also believe that Vinegar Joe would have kicked ass and taken names. He should have been the SHAEF commander and later President, but he had the terrible misfortune of speaking Chinese, so he ended up in charge of the CBI theatre. Such is fate, and life.

Being a hero, or even a patriot has nothing to do with blindly accepting that actions of your nation. You must know truth, you must know right and wrong, and you must be willing to guard the line between them with your life if need be.

I have not given up the faith, from the oppressed come the free. I had a hat that said that once, lol.

Have a great day.

PS A close friend of mine was the Doc on an in place recovery team in the first Iraq war, and they got rolled up. I know the pain you feel. But I and they wouldnt have it any other way. The last thing you get to do in life, is to decide how you die. My heaven is Valhalla, battle every day and feasting every night.

Neither BO or Clinton served. Mac did
by gmajesko

The code in Nam as a POW was you don't get released when others have been there longer. McCains opted to stay and was tortured even more.

If you guys don't admire his character and believe that Clinton and BO has any character at all, I feel very sorry for you.

There are Politicians and there are men. Fortunately for us McCain is a real man and has chosen Politics as his life. Don't elect a panty wearer or panty sniffer to the oval office.

Re: Neither BO or Clinton served. Mac did
by William Diaz

Lol!

Men dont abandon their wives because they suffered a car accident while they were P.O.W's. Period. Men dont leave their wives when they are in the hospital for cancer treatment (Newt Gingrich).

I trust any of the Clintons and Sen Obama a damn sight further than any of the Republican scumbags that are running that show now. Ill take an Arlen Spectre or Olympia Snowe for that matter, but at least one of them wears panties, which might not be acceptable to you.

I work in a field where women are judged by their merits, not their chromosomal makeup, and my personal feeling is that the world is a better place for it. I am sorry your small mind cant get past undergarments, but hey, the nation needs fry cooks as well as scientists, eh?

And for chasing women, lol, yeah. Larry Craig ring a bell? Im sorry, but as a warrior (not just a soldier) and former hellraiser, I wouldnt trust a man unless he had a little fire in his soul. McCain once had my respect, now I believe he is a whore. Getting shot down in an airplane doesnt make you a hero, doesnt qualify you to be President and obviously doesnt mean shit for character. As we used to say back in the olden days, McCain has no juice.

Sen Obama at least taught Constitutional law, which means that he has at least passing familiarity with the document the Republicans have been shredding for the last 7 years. He was familiar with it before Bush and Co did their little song and dance number on it. Maybe he can put it back together. God I hope so, or I am going to have to emigrate.

Under the Republicans, the most American thing to do will likely be to become Canadian. At least their dollar is still worth something, eh?

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