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Stop the Nonsense
by Mayfray88
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What the hell is going on? The Congress is pulling the AG into countless inquiries over what? Tapping the lines of terrorists calling their comrades here in the states? I say tap away, listen and tape and do whatever you want. They are terrorists! Thanks to the NY Times we all now know the U.S. authorities have high tech computers to sift through countless phones call algorithms in an effort to tap the ones that count. And the Libs in Congress are up in arms. This is chicken feed compared what FDR, JFK and RFK did in their day. The FISA court? Did that court bring any contempt charges? Did they object? No. But the dumbest man in Congress, Rep Conyers, the idiot who constantly made a fool of himself at Humphrey Hawkins meetings during Greenspans tenure, well that Leftist partisan hack wants answers. Who cares if they didn’t seek approval afterwards, it was a done deal anyway. You want to fight terrorists or court battles? And stop with the boring “Bush is shredding the constitution and is targeting us all. bla bla bla”. The only "victims" have been manufactured in college libraries by Left wingers. As if the Left gives a damn about the U.S. Constitution with the constant attacks on the first and second amendments and insistence that the constitution is a “flexible” document. What do the Slate libs think the majority of the American people would say if Obama or Clinton took this Congressional nonsense on the road? No, don’t want to go there? BTW, no I don’t give a damn that they fired a handful of prosecutors who serve at the pleasure of the president.
Re: Stop the Nonsense
by dslack

I can't believe I have to explain this to a person who, I would guess, calls himself "conservative". A conservative person tends to tread carefully, especially when stepping near the Constitution. The FISA provides a procedure for obtaining surveillance. If the Act is insufficient, the Constitutional remedy is to amend it, not to ignore it. To ignore an Act of Congress involves trampling on the Constitution, the foundation of American government.

Alberto Gonzales was asked some questions about the program that supposedly involved ignoring the FISA. He gave non-answers and false answers. Just as you or I would have to give answers, truthful answers, to questions we would be asked in court, similarly the Attorney General must give truthful answers, or explain the relevant privilege that prevents him from being compelled to answer, when he is asked questions in a session of Congress. His repeated lies and refusal to answer questions are an affront to Congress that should enrage everyone who cares about the Constitution, regardless of party affiliation.

Regarding US Attorneys: They serve We The People at the pleasure of the President. They do not serve the President. The President may fire them for no reason at all, but this does not mean that he may fire them for any reason. For instance, he may not fire them in order to obstruct justice. He may not fire them for refusing to pursue bogus cases against Democrats, nor for pursuing real cases against Republicans.

We have a (relatively) unchanging Constitution in order that there be some continuity in our form of government throughout the ages. Surely you would scream bloody murder if a Democratic President committed a tenth of the Constitutional violations that this President's administration has. The relationship between the branches of government, and the standards of acceptable behavior from the President and the rest of government must not change with every election cycle, which is why crimes against the Constitution are so serious.

Re: Stop the Nonsense
by bluedanube555
Great post..you can tell you are posting well when you get such negative reviews...I am with you .....You make sense to me...!!!!!
Re: Stop the Nonsense bluedanube555
by ArCoog
Let us know when you stop backing BUSH!! Will it be when he hits 10% approval rating or are you going to go to your grave LOVING your king.
Too late, you already posted it
by Horus

Mayfray88:
What the hell is going on?

Clearly, you have very little idea.

The Congress is pulling the AG into countless inquiries over what? Tapping the lines of terrorists calling their comrades here in the states? I say tap away, listen and tape and do whatever you want. They are terrorists! Thanks to the NY Times we all now know the U.S. authorities have high tech computers to sift through countless phones call algorithms in an effort to tap the ones that count.

Oh, well, if the Times says they're terrorists, it must be true. Forget FISA or warrants, let's just tap everyone for convenience. Starting with you.

And the Libs in Congress are up in arms. This is chicken feed compared what FDR, JFK and RFK did in their day. The FISA court? Did that court bring any contempt charges? Did they object? No.

FISA's function is not to bring contempt charges, but to authorize electronic surveillance. No reason it can't be allowed to do its job, without BushCo running roughshod over it. Not sure whether they're just too lazy to get the warrants, even AFTER the fact...or whether it's part of a deliberate effort to increase Bush's power. Bad deal, either way.

And FYI...this is Bush's 'day,' not FDR's or Bobby K's.

But the dumbest man in Congress, Rep Conyers, the idiot who constantly made a fool of himself at Humphrey Hawkins meetings during Greenspans tenure, well that Leftist partisan hack wants answers. Who cares if they didn’t seek approval afterwards, it was a done deal anyway. You want to fight terrorists or court battles?

If Bush wanted to fight "terrorists," he'd be going after them in Pakistan, not spying on Americans. Clearly, you've slurped down a large share of the Kool-Aid.

And stop with the boring “Bush is shredding the constitution and is targeting us all. bla bla bla”. The only "victims" have been manufactured in college libraries by Left wingers. As if the Left gives a damn about the U.S. Constitution with the constant attacks on the first and second amendments and insistence that the constitution is a “flexible” document.

Yeah, just "stop with it." Easier than actually ANSWERING it, eh? Just them damned left wingers again, anyway, shoot 'em all...

What do the Slate libs think the majority of the American people would say if Obama or Clinton took this Congressional nonsense on the road? No, don’t want to go there? BTW, no I don’t give a damn that they fired a handful of prosecutors who serve at the pleasure of the president.

Either one would make a far, FAR better President than Gormless George Bush and his puppetmaster, Deadeye Dick Cheney. BTW, I don't give a damn whether you like that or not...

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