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the new morality
by RALAX
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Giving hearty approval to the killing the babies that women are fully responsible for creating-- what kind of a mind deems that moral?

Hirshman is a fiend, and publishing a plea that others will adopt a logic that is straight out of the novel 1984.

Re: the new morality
by lovelyrita

I like how now only women are responsible for creating babies.

Anyway, what if you use birth control and you still get pregnant? Are you still responsible? I have a family member whose husband had a vasectomy but they were so paranoid they still used condoms, and guess what happened?

Re: the new morality
by Kit-Kat

Honestly--because not everyone believes that a fetus is a person. If you don't think it's a person, then an abortion is not murder. That's the kind of mind that deems it moral.


Re: the new morality
by kaiso

"killing the babies"

There's your problem. Rational people realize that abortion is not actually baby-killing.

A fetus in its 10th week of development (12 weeks gestation) - and the vast majority of elective abortions occur at or before this time - is not a tiny infant. It's pretty much a tadpole. I just can't get worked up about the fate of a tadpole. I would have been devastated to lose my own tadpole at that time - since I fully anticipated its development into my own real baby - but the prospect of someone else deciding to kill their tadpole? Not a tragedy. Sad, of course, if they'd really like to keep their tadpole but can't afford to - but not like stealing into the nursery and smothering an infant.

It's your prerogative to take the unscientific and overly sentimental view that every chemical pregnancy lost, every tadpoley fetus that stops growing or is evicted from its uterine quarters is an "angel baby waiting for you in heaven", but do please refrain from attempting to force me or anyone else to act in line with such nonsense.


Re: the new morality
by OPALFERN
Soon after 10 weeks of interuterine development the fetus has 99% of what an adult has in the form of working organs. More than a tadpole I think.
Re: the new morality
by kaiso

Most abortions happen before 12 weeks gestation (10 weeks intrauterine development, as you put it).

And while the primitive structures may be there in primitive form, anywhere close to full function is not. Otherwise, fetuses at 12 weeks gestation could sometimes survive if kept warm and oxygenated and such, like 22-23 weeks gestation fetuses sometimes can. I know it's not exactly a tadpole, but it's not exactly an infant, either, now is it? Its capabilities and characteristics are more like a tadpole (this may come as a shock to you, but tadpoles have organs, too, you know) than like a person.

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