When I was a child I saw a farmer take a staff with hook, connect it to a bulls nose, and lead it to a female to make baby bovines. Oh my gosh. I didn't know I just viewed a rape rod being used. Oh the horror. I have been emotionally scarred.

How stupid is it to call a breeding device a rape stand? Is volutary insemination volutary rape? What is the name used by the manufacturer? I'm fairly certain it's not a rape stand.

My sister attemtped to have a litter with her two pit bulls and they nearly killed each other but they still did it. Perhaps the stand was designed to prevent severe injuries to the animals. The person that named it a rape stand is probably a deviant, homosexual, or rapist themselves.

Apparently you were mentally scarred as well because this post is entirely deficient of any intellectual value whatsoever. Please make it a point to never have children.

If breeder's don't use the "rape stand", they must do it for a reason. There must be no confusion over what Michal Vick was doing. What he did was purely immoral, heartless, illegal, and shameful. No female, animal or human, must be strapped to any freakish device.

If anything comes out of this, I would hope Vick himself be strapped down himself and know how it would feel like to be stapped down tormented and be granted full legal punishment. Justice for the animals as well for human victims.

Homo's and rapist, don't call it a "rape stand". Other people know it as a "rape stand", because that's what it's made for!!!!

I suppose we should allow our dogs to date and spend a few years getting to know one another and have sex perhaps after they're married

Look, the reason there's pure bred dogs is because they aren't allowed to choose their mates. There owners choose them. Once someone sends their dog to be bred to a particular dog it is the breeders responsibility to breed to that dog. Dogs do have a mating ritual. It can take as little as a few minutes or as long as a few hours. Breeding is a business. The stand is expedient and efficient. Remember there's a window for the right time to breed. A large kennel can make several breedings with the use of the "breeding stand" in the time it could take to make one breeding without it. It's just efficient business. Even aggressive pitbulls will breed during the heat cycle, so that's not the issue.

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actually, th thing is cruel and abusive. and it does damage to th dog's gene structure. i would not buy a dog from such a breeder, since the dog's organism would be more inclined to being penned and the beast's instincts and for'e are blunted.

funny thing is, while the same argument applies to humans, there is a similar mechanism used in some cultures where the fetus is removed and 'tuned' and then reinserted after recessi9ves and birth defects have been adjusted.

interestingly, there are those who claim this is similarly damaging to the human child who results.

rodn5yn,

I understand your misguided attempt to justify the rape of an animal due to market demand; it proves that the patriarchal, capitalist structure has brainwashed you well.

Animals will mate, yes indeed. Female dogs in heat will do so willingly, with or without human interference. To place a dog in a rape stand is just as inhumane as forcing a woman to procreate against her will. The aspect of human interference is the problem here. Putting two dogs in a pen to foster the mating ritual is not comparable to restraining a female dog.

With that said, you may continue to support the rape stand as a necessary evil. However, when the stand is used to create more dogs to abuse through dog fighting, it's just another accessory to the crime. Most certainly Vick and his fellow beasts were using the stand for such a purpose. It's also likely you would object to this device if one of these aggressive progeny were to break free and tear your child apart or chew off your own limbs. What then?

Yet, it is not surprising to hear someone like yourself dismissing the breeding stand as a necessity. We do after all live in the U.S. where rapists regularly go unpunished and the survivor is treated like a criminal. Where the lust for money and the value of humanity are in direct opposition to each other.

I think it’s interesting that it hasn’t occurred to any of you geniuses that they call it a “breeding stand” when it’s used to expedite breeding. Whether you consider that rape or not is colored by your view of animal rights and your knowledge of how various kennels function.

The sociopaths who enable dogfighting call the device a “rape stand” when it’s used for rape. Male dogs who are horny do not necessarily wait for a female dog to signal that she is ready to mate by assuming the correct position – surely at sometime in your life you have witnessed a male dog trying to hump someone’s pant leg or a small child who has bent over to pick up a toy. You may also have witnessed the agitation of a female dog who is not ready and willing to be mounted. It is not impossible for a male dog to penetrate a female dog when she isn’t in heat – it’s just impossible for the female to conceive, and it is painful for her, and it REALLY pisses her off…and it evokes a fury in an already aggressive female dog which is unfathomable.

Why isn’t the media glomming onto this? I guess it just hasn’t dawned on civilized folk yet how scary the outcome of even attempting to rape a pit bull would be.

1. It is generally called a "breeding" stand or a "cover" in veterinarian practises.

2. I find it interesting that you so casually throw homosexuality in your little list of negative reasons for the name of the stand. Very telling.

The Michael Vick affair is no laughing matter, but I couldn't help laughing at a mental picture that my imagination went to work on. Translating it to human affairs, everytime I imagined a poor guy tryng to make love to a willing woman who was so mean she couldn't resist trying to bite him, I chuckled. Close, anyone?

Veronica dear, there's more to it than that. Stop personalizing

everything. Your'e OBVIOUSLY not a b.... at all!

Dogs aren't very smart. (fyi) If a tumescent male

demounts the wrong way, or the female causes him to,

he can hurt himself severely, if not given time. Tight fit.

It may be nature's way of ensuring success in the wild

but the stand makes it safer for all concerned. Humans too.

That part at at least isn't cruel, just the name, and it saves time.

Old time managers used to keep their boxers away from

females to make them mean. Why would a serious

breeder indulge a dog's passion for sex, or force a

valuable female to endure a potentially harmful experience

(because her physiology is not ready),

when nothing can come of it. I don't believe that aspect of it.

"does damage to th dog's gene structure"

Nonsense. It can't. Perhaps you meant to say something else.