This war hawk author has been consistantly wrong about Iraq and the Mid-East over the years.

The man has a proven record of just plain being wrong.

How about facts, do you believe in those?

Fact: Iraq has been and continues to be a quagmire and has made us less safe.

Maybe you should hit refresh on your browser, because you seem be stuck back in 2006.

Not everything which Hitchens says about Iraq is wrong. It would be foolish to reject everything he says about the country and the war. He would be right if he said that the sun rises in Iraq's eastern sky.

The problem I have with Hitchens is that he can't see the forest for the trees. After everything is said and done, if Iraq goes swimmingly from now on, it wasn't worth it for Americans. It has taken too a great a toll.

No matter how much of a role as world leader Americans and lovers of freedom around the world expect the USA to take, our leaders must still put American self interests first. In this respect, Iraq has been absolute derelicition of duty, a tragedy.

Hitchens and his ilk have divided this country.

Corporate fascists use propaganda types like Hitchens to further their agenda.

He is nothing but a tool.

It must be convienent for him to be an Atheist. He does not have to worry about Saint Peter and the pearly gates. Afterall, what would God think of a person who pushed the propaganda about this Corporate war for profits.

It was never about WMD's - Period. All Americans should be ashamed.

There's also the little matter of anywhere between 150k and 1.5M Iraqi lives. Perhaps Hitchens believes they were all not for us, but against us. I'm not sure what he believes about that really, I stopped reading his turgid prose - he needs to lay off the thesaurus.

Dead Iraqis are NEV ER news. I find it funny that we are accused here of not telling the whole story when our own government doesnt count dead Iraqis in our body count and doesnt allow the coffins coming home on our side to be filmed to confirm the impact on real American families.....your son or daughter isnt a casualty-those are statistics only......

That Hitchins clearly thinks wars can solve the problems of terror has always been a fact and should suprise no one. Many people felt it was time to stop terror by putting a few missiles and bombs in the right places and to use shock and awe to show the general public in the Islamic world that the terrorist attacks will have consequences on them. It would SEEM logical wouldnt it?

But as any Israelii can tell you, tit for tat doesnt stop terror and never has. Even when you use a disproportionate response (Bush knows what that is now that its Russia doing it).

What stops terror?

Well if the terrorism is politically motivated and not just sheer terror, you can try communicating with those who thought terror was their only option. We tried it in Ireland and WOW it worked! Talking to each other worked? Who'd a thunk it?

Talking to al Queda will not work any more than trying to sweet talk Japanese kamakazi pilots who are already bolted into their cockpits and heading for American warships would have worked. Kill terrorists. Period.

Then help the would-be terrorists imagine other, hopeful options in life than strapping on suicide vests.

EarlyBird appears to have forgotten the 72 virgins. Or that very few Muslims are without large families. For every terrorist killed you have made 5-10 enemies of the USA. If your brother was killed by foreign soldiers on your own soil you'd hate them no matter the political spin you might see from Early Bird on the internet. And hate will often create the need for revenge. Thanks for reproducing Al Qaeda into the next generation!.

Except that in Iraq Al Queida isnt the issue. Al Queida in Iraq was born BECAUSE WE INVADED IRAQ.

To make a real effort to TALK to the Islamic world about their issues with US foreign policy would be smart. Al Queida is a terrorist group but their politics are based on our policy. If we actually spoke to political leaders of Iran and spoke to any non violent person with similar complaints to Al Queida we could seriously impact the situation. Take away the argument that we dont talk to anyone but Israel. Take away the belief that the US simply wants their oil, and suddenly the recruitment tools for Al Queida are removed. So long as we drop bombs and ignore the Islamic world, every claim that Osama makes about us appears to be true-we just want their oil and bases in the middle east-and THAT is what gives people what appears to be a legit reason to join his terrorist cause.

bsharporflat:

EarlyBird appears to have forgotten the 72 virgins. Or that very few Muslims are without large families. For every terrorist killed you have made 5-10 enemies of the USA. If your brother was killed by foreign soldiers on your own soil you'd hate them no matter the political spin you might see from Early Bird on the internet. And hate will often create the need for revenge. Thanks for reproducing Al Qaeda into the next generation!.

OK, how's this: Kill terrorists. Repeat until dead.

The Real RML:

What stops terror?

Well if the terrorism is politically motivated and not just sheer terror, you can try communicating with those who thought terror was their only option. We tried it in Ireland and WOW it worked! Talking to each other worked? Who'd a thunk it?

With respect--isn't that what we're trying to convince the various factions in Iraq at the moment?

Good point, Bsharp. So let's just stop hunting terrorists. If we happen to find a bunch of Al Queda terrorists ready to commit mass carnage in our cities, let's just let them go. If they've got a truck filled with high explosive heading for an outpost in Afghanistan, just clear the road for them and wish them luck. Don't want to just create more of them. 72 virgins and all that.

Your stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

"Repeat until dead"

I like that one Hellz. It implies that that there is a finite amount of terrorists.

But see the problem with your theory is that people have babies and that terrorists are not born terrorists-they are made. So long as the reasons (political, revenge, etc) exist more terrorists will be made and the cycle continues.

You seem to believe if we keep killing people the terror will stop.

When in fact every US bomb that kills an innocent person will make more terrorists.

Terror is not a country or some other easily spotted enemy. It is a cause and it is driven by revenge and hatred for what is believed to be an oppressor. We supply Saudi Arabia and other super rich oppressive governments with weapons and we send in our troops to support them-thus we are enemy in their minds politically. Invade a nation based on lies and kill a lot of innocent people, avoid justice in Haditha and elsewhere, and we have revenge motivation. Of course Osama doesnt care which of the reasons you join are, so long as you are happy to strap on the bomb vest.

And Hellz doesnt care about stopping the war-he just wants us to have someone to kill.