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another of McCain lies.
by kadet
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Will press notice?

this is completely fucking wrong.

Kate Couric: Senator McCain, Senator Obama says, while the increased number of US troops contributed to increased security in Iraq, he also credits the Sunni awakening and the Shiite government going after militias. And says that there might have been improved security even without the surge. What's your response to that?

McCain: I don't know how you respond to something that is as-- such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel McFarlane [phonetic] was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that's just a matter of history. Thanks to General Petraeus, our leadership, and the sacrifice of brave young Americans. I mean, to deny that their sacrifice didn't make possible the success of the surge in Iraq, I think, does a great disservice to young men and women who are serving and have sacrificed.

The colonel in question is now a one-star general, and his name is Sean MacFarland. He was commander of the 1st Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division, based in Ramadi in 2006 and early 2007 and is a key figure in embracing the Anbar Awakening before it even had that name. Here he is explaining what was going on to Pam Hess, then of UPI, on September 29, 2006, at least two months before Bush decided upon the surge, and about three before he announced it to the public:

With respect to the violence between the Sunnis and the al Qaeda -- actually, I would disagree with the assessment that the al Qaeda have the upper hand. That was true earlier this year when some of the sheikhs began to step forward and some of the insurgent groups began to fight against al Qaeda. The insurgent groups, the nationalist groups, were pretty well beaten by al Qaeda.

This is a different phenomena that's going on right now. I think that it's not so much the insurgent groups that are fighting al Qaeda, it's the -- well, it used to be the fence-sitters, the tribal leaders, are stepping forward and cooperating with the Iraqi security forces against al Qaeda, and it's had a very different result. I think al Qaeda has been pushed up against the ropes by this, and now they're finding themselves trapped between the coalition and ISF on the one side, and the people on the other.

For McCain to say that the Anbar Awakening is the product of the surge is either a lie or professional malpractice for a presidential candidate who is staking his election on his allegedly superior Iraq judgment.

Re: another of McCain lies.
by HST-libertarian

"...and now they're finding themselves trapped between the coalition and ISF on the one side, and the people on the other."

You DO know who "the coalition" is, don't you?

Re: another of McCain lies.
by kadet

it was before surge started.

Why does McCain lie?

Re: another of McCain lies.
by HST-libertarian
So it "started" before the surge (technically). You DO know how the military operates, don't you? Probably not! Sometimes they move before all the forces that are coming are in place (striking while the iron is hot, as it were)...
Re: Gidget drinking HO Kool-aid
by frankaag2

Here Gidge.. Lemme pour ya another Glass O dat tall Jim Jones brand O Kool-aid.

Actually, It was Eye-Ran who brought the discord to an end..

Ya see Gidge, Eye-Ran loves our American troops so much, they did not want to kill any more of them..They stopped giving their terrorist alSadr and company more weapons..

Do what happened.. The Crazytollahs in EyeRan had an "AWAKENING". They told their hit-man alSadr BTW Gidge, didja know that alSadr is an EyeRanian operative.This was mentioned at the start of the waaa.. Stoopid BOO-shrefused to have him killed.. I have been screaming for US to kill him when the waaa started..

So, Gidge, it was the EyeRanian "awakening" that has really helped..Ho is absolute right.. So why does Ho not give EyeRan the credit they deserve....Who knows?.. Ho does not know his right foot from his left unless pointed out to him by his handlers.

BTW AH.. Yer Moosiah babbles BS constantly.. No one really knows what goes on behind the scene.. Could be BOO-sh sent word to the Crazytollahs to cut off weapons to alSado or we would drop a few bombs on them or it could be other carrots promised..You and HO does not know these things.. Business like this is always held/done in secret between governments..

Giving full credit to our troops is something that marxists can neva eva brung themselves to do....Marxist did this before.. it was Gorby that was mostly responsible for bringing the USSR to it's knees.. Not RR or the Pope or Lech Walesea.. It was GORBY.. Fucking America haters.

But the new marxist talking point is "The Awakening".. Geeze Gidge, you "Chirrens of the Korn" are fun to behold....

This gave be a good chuckle before I'm off to work.

Hang in thar Gidge.. Careful w/ that Jim Jones Chocolate lemonade..That is what's giving ya diarrhea of the mouth.

McSame veers back and forth
by Horus

..between outright lies such as this and his outrageous claim that Obama would 'lose the war to win the election,' and idiotic errors such as his confusion of Sunnis and Shi'ites, his ignorance of where national borders are, and his belief that Czechoslovakia still exists.

He's clearly unfit for the Presidency. He's actually beginning to look WORSE than Bush in some ways.

Re: another of McCain lies.
by MrMike

Apparently he doesn't...understand the term "between a rock and a hard place"

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