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Changing the world
by Les Bergman

The subject of Saudia Arabia and school books is also a great need in America. As mentioned in the article that the children learn that they should hate Christian and Jews.

Is it not the same in American schools where they teach evelution and to hate God and the Bible. Evelution has been proven wrong but they still do not want to teach creation side by side. Our History is that the Bible was one of the text books originally used in schools.

Re: Changing the world
by Sigep
I agree
Re: Changing the world
by b0nnylass

Oh yes, my favorite class in high school was "Hating God and the Bible". I got an A+.

Quit exaggerating please. Send your kid to Christian school if you want him to learn the Bible and creationism. And saying ridiculous things like "evolution has been proven wrong" makes you sound a bit silly. The fact that you don't understand it doesn't make it any less real.

Re: Changing the world
by s34738

Fucking retard can't even spell "evolution" correctly. How would you know if it's been proven wrong? Did you look up "evelution" in the encyclopedia?

Take your kids to Sunday school if you want them to study the Bible or *gasp* teach them yourself if it's that important to you.

I don't want my tax dollars to be wasted on federally funded creation classes. I don't want my kids to be brainwashed either, thank you very much.

Re: Changing the world
by dawn1013

Actually there are a some schools that teach both theories, and a few others. I would like to point out that the Catholic Church does not deny evolution as the means in which God made things happen. I don't know what you mean by "evolution being proved wrong", science and theory are always changing/"evolving" ((sorry couldn't help it)), and over the years since Sir Charles Darwin's ideas were new, science's understanding of "evolution" has grown and changed, but it has never been dismissed, becuase you can't dismiss it.

Re: Changing the world
by beverly salter
general george washington told his officers that a man that has to use profanity lacks the intelligence to carry on a conversation. that being said, yes, send your children to a private school and take them to sundayschool. you will be glad you made the sacrifice. i did and could not afford it but i don't regret my choice of priorities one bit. if you talk like that, i can imagine your children.........
Evolution hasn't been falsified
by JGC

“Is it not the same in American schools where they teach evelution and to hate God and the Bible.”

>>Evolution is appropriately taught as part of a natural sciences curriculum, when covering the field of biology. Evolution, however, makes no absolutely no statements regarding god or the bible, and it’s quite possible to believe in god and to value the bible while also accepting the validity of evolution.

“Evelution has been proven wrong but they still do not want to teach creation side by side.”

>>Evolution has not been falsified, I’m afraid: it remains the central unifying principle of the biological sciences.

“Our History is that the Bible was one of the text books originally used in schools.”

>>Yes—public education ahs improved greatly since those days, hasn’t it?

Re: Changing the world
by Hellzapoppin

No it is not the same. Please show me the one school that teaches kids to "hate God and the Bible."

As for evolution, it's simple: You are free to have an uninformed opinion which betrays your ignorance about evolution just as you are free to trumpet that you know nothing about education. I would never dream of bringing my science to your kids' religion class; don't you ever dare to bring your religion into my kid's science class. This is the view of all our courts and schoolboards, even conservative ones. Thank God for Reason.

Re: Changing the world
by s34738

If profanity bothers you, go fuck yourself.

Times have changed since Washington was president. Get with it or spend the rest of your life taking offense to stupid shit, your choice.

Both "theories”?
by JGC

Creationism doesn’t represent a theory, unless one is simply using 'theory' as a synonym for ‘conjecture’. Creationist models aren't comprehensive, make no testable predictions, aren't falsifiable, violate parsimony, and possess no real explanatory power.

Re: Changing the world
by eddo
All I can say is that you need ot get a vocabulary.
Re: Both "theories”?
by dawn1013

A definition of theory is as follows....

a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. (<link>)

Creationalism, Evolution, the "Big Bang", relativity are all theories. Theories are ideas, that as of yet, have not been proven... just because you do not like a theory does not make it go away. Intolerance of any sort is dangerous, that includes an intolerance of agnostic/athiest/religeous groups.

Re: Changing the world
by michael mceachran
Show of hands - how many of you changed your minds or learned anything from this chain? Anyone? Anyone? No? Bueler? Didn't think so. That's why some of you need better vocab, and the rest of you need bigger brains.
Re: Changing the world
by dawn1013

Bueller... it has two L's

tehehe

That's a vernacular, not scientific, definition
by JGC

A definition , but not the definition of ‘theory’ as the term is used in the natural sciences. If we’re comparing creationism to scientific theories such as evolution, the "Big Bang", or relativity that’s the standard creationism must be held to.

A formal scientific definition would be “a unifying and self consistent explanation of fundamental natural processes or phenomena constructed entirely of corroborated hypotheses, which explains observations within its scope in a tentative, comprehensive and predictive manner.”

Creationism doesn’t meet this definition—not least in that it describes supernatural rather than natural processes.

Further, creationism possesses no real explanatory power—certainly no more than any other supernatural explanation for biological diversity (“God did it” is, after all, indistinguishable from “Leprechauns did it” or “Fairies did it” on any basis other than personal preference.)

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