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The right to not do your job
by creatrix
I used to work at a delicatessin. We hired vegetarians, but if they refused to cut meat on the moral principals or religious convictions they didn't last long. What kind of stupidity is being perpetuated here???
Re: The right to not do your job
by spiker

Killing a human being and feeding meat to customers by most human beings are considered fundamentally different issues.

You see monkeys and humans have canine teeth in order to eat meat. This is an evolutionary adaptation indicating that we should eat at least some meat. So this is a biological discussion not a moral discussion concerning if people should eat meat. Abortions on the other hand are moral questions.

Re: The right to not do your job
by Eastheimer
There's no line between "biological discussion" and "moral discussion." If there's any division of the sciences which most frequently lends itself to moral uncertainty, it's biology.
Re: The right to not do your job
by spiker

Wisenheimer join the human race when it comes to higher orders of thinking.

When blacks call each other nigga's and then say whites can't indulge in the practice, well, I get it (Do you?). Just like I get why eating meat and abortions are not even remotely on the same level in a discussion on morality.

I have canines. I'm entitled to eat meat as a matter of a base biological imperative. There is no equivalent base biological reasoning for abortions. Abortion is a morality discussion.

Re: The right to not do your job
by bluekansasgirl
If it were biologically necessary for people to eat meat then there would be no living vegetarians. But there are. Just because you're physically capable of doing something does not mean that you are "entitled" to do it. That said, I think that you surely do have a right to eat meat if you want to, but for many people the decision not to is, in fact, a moral one whether you like it or not.
Re: The right to not do your job
by spiker

I guess when a dolphin eats fish it is somehow immoral? How about when the killer whale plays with its food, some harbor seal? Or how about when those lions eat alive a whole wilderbeast? Yes, immoral... I get it................. no I don't actually.

I believe we should treat animals humanely but not eat them being a moral choice is just non-sensical.

Re: The right to not do your job
by bluekansasgirl

Is a dolphin, or a killer whale, or a lion capable of reason? That's what makes the difference.

Some people choose not to eat meat for health reasons, some choose not to for financial reasons, others choose not to because the believe it is morally wrong to kill things just so they can be eaten. I'm sorry if you don't believe me, but it's true.

Re: The right to not do your job
by spiker

I don't know about lions, but dolphins and killer whales are some pretty astonishing creatures that may have cognitive levels far beyond what most people would care to believe.

Monkey and apes have language skills, a strong sense of right and wrong, and they eat meat. Hunting for it as a matter of fact.

As to killing things just so they can be eaten being some moral conundrum... please... when you eat a carrot you killed something just to eat.

Where is the line drawn? With the canine and incissors if you ask me.

Yes, I understant some people believe they are morally obligated to not eat meat but it is simply juvenile reasoning. Those types try to get other people to stop eating meat and some of them would force people to stop eating meat because of this great moral issue they make out of it.

Personally, I think abusing wild or domesticated animals or not seeing a sacred nature in eating creatures great and small is morally bankrupt. I think it leads to gluttony and waste. Yes, moral questions, but just eating meat is not.

Moral Certitude
by samuraiam

spiker:

Abortions on the other hand are moral questions.

Yes, they are.

And you feel that seizing the body of a female and compelling that body to be used to your preferred purpose is moral?.

You're the one who has the right to regulate the female's bodily processes and make sure that they are put to the proper use?

I don't see how considering a female a machine owned by the state is a moral stance.

Re: Moral Certitude
by spiker

I've had this discussion several times and can tell right of the bat that you offer nothing new in your argumentation.

Your assertions that I specifically want to regulate abortion and impose my will on women is a simple rhetorical device used over and over again on this issue that simply is an untrue characterization used by the brain washed.

Re: Moral Certitude
by samuraiam
What do you want, then?
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