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73% of Americans want more offshore drilling...
by StanH
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Once again, liberals are on the fringe. It's nice to see more normal Americans get up to speed on this issue.
Re: 73% of Americans want more offshore drilling...
by MrMike

I think it's a little odd they are so desperate to NOT allow any additional options for drilling emerge...

Why do Liberals do everything in their power to keep us dependent on foreign oil then cry about that situation (they themselves create)?

Re: 73% of Americans want more offshore drilling...
by tsedek

StanH:
Once again, liberals are on the fringe. It's nice to see more normal Americans get up to speed on this issue.

What happens when you tell that 73% that it won't impact gas costs and that they'll be giving oil companies a half price royalty rate?

The 73% is a tribute to the Bigs' marketing skills and their paid shills, the GOP. About the same number that used to think the invasion of Iraq was a good idea :)

Re: 73% of Americans want more offshore drilling...
by StanH

They back up their position with lies about new drilling taking 10 years to come online. Even that doesn't pass the smell test, as alternative fuel automobiles are further off than that. Not only that, even if those cars became available tomorrow, we could export all of our oil to other countries.

These are the same clowns that whine about the trade deficit and lack of good-paying jobs.

Sheez

Re: 73% of Americans want more offshore drilling...
by StanH

"What happens when you tell that 73% that it won't impact gas costs and that they'll be giving oil companies a half price royalty rate?"

Some liberals have already conceded that opening up ANWR would lower gas prices "only" 50 cents per gallon. So what about the new jobs, new tax revenue generated and the trade deficit? And I may have asked you this before, but wouldn't increased exploration and production prop up the falling dollar as well?

Re: 73% of Americans want more offshore drilling...
by tsedek

"Some liberals have already conceded that opening up ANWR would lower gas prices "only" 50 cents per gallon."

I won't mention names, but some liberals are morons. Supply is ample and independent refineries are losing money on every gallon they produce now, as gasoline is artificially low.

"So what about the new jobs, new tax revenue generated and the trade deficit?"

Those are legitimate positives and the case for drilling can be made on them alone. We must, of course, realize that we don't have the equipment now for more extreme drilling and that this isn't a quick solution. For more drilling to happen, prices must stay high. Should they drop, drilling will stop, just as in the mid-'80s and late '90s.

"And I may have asked you this before, but wouldn't increased exploration and production prop up the falling dollar as well?"

Increased tax revenue would, improved accounts balance would, and full market royalties would definately help. Lot of positives, but I must demand full royalty. It's our oil, Stan, Exxon can pay us what it's worth or drill somewhere else. Enough welfare.

Re: 73% of Americans want more offshore drilling...
by HennaRinse

And it will put off the inevitable once again. During the gas crisises of the 70's, people and government were on the band wagon to conserve and develop new energy sources. What happened? Supplies eased, prices dropped and motivation was sapped. 28 years later, the industry has barely moved forward.

I fail to understand why oil companies will not explore, drill or declare their leases inviable. Actually, I do see. Just as tsedek has said, they want discounts on easier to drill sites and they'll continue to hold onto 65 million acres of leases they deem, inviable. It is illogical that they are not crying foul of that situation.

If they would drill them, you would have:

So what about the new jobs, new tax revenue generated and the trade deficit? And I may have asked you this before, but wouldn't increased exploration and production prop up the falling dollar as well?

Drill on place, drill another. They are holding Americans hostage to their greed.

Re: 73% of Americans want more offshore drilling...
by MrMike

Heck.. sometimes, we are all a bit of morons regardless of political affiliations

Bush 1 screwed the pooch with his executive order on offshore drilling and Congress followed suit

If we were really smart, we would have opened our eyes (and kept them open) after the first oil embargo held us hostage

I like what TBooneP is doing, and I have invested into alternative energy companies (two) myself with one being focused on fuel cell tech and another on a special chemical/light energy tech

The writing is on the wall and innovation will happen without the government sticking its big teats out to screw up everything (as it usually does)

Use it or lose it
by RScommon
I think we should take back those leases that the oil companies have where they aren't drilling. I bet 76% of Americans agree with that.
Re: 73% of Americans want more offshore drilling...
by tsedek

"The writing is on the wall and innovation will happen without the government sticking its big teats out to screw up everything (as it usually does) "

True. High costs are a better driver of innovation than government fiat. When gas goes up to $6 or $7 after the first of the year, alternatives will be more viable and look a lot better.

Re: 73% of Americans want more offshore drilling...
by MrMike

I lived in Europe for a decade... so the sticker shock doesn't bug me as much as most people. It was only a matter of time that would reach these shores.

Rick made fun of me for driving my little Peugeot 307 when I lived in the UK, but the price of a litre of gas made it a perfect choice. It turned out to be a great little car.

The world is awash in oil. Supply is abundant.
by BFD
Yet 73% of Americans think more oil is the answer. That's very shortsighted thinking.
Re: The world is awash in oil. Supply is abundant.
by RScommon
The GOP lives and dies by these inane proposals. This election, I have bets they die.
it is amazing isn't it
by redtide
they do not like US depending upon the ME but they will not allow US to take what is already ours
Re: it is amazing isn't it
by MrMike

Yep retide... that irony seems to be lost in the fuzzy logic they seem to exist under

;o)

redtide:
they do not like US depending upon the ME but they will not allow US to take what is already ours

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